I would ask the attending doctor who would provide guidance.
Aaaaaannnnnnd...here come the hydroxycholroquine lawsuits
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I would ask the attending doctor who would provide guidance.
Not me. There is no evidence of effectiveness with chloroquine right now while there are two medications and a therapy that have shown effectiveness.
You are likely to find that there is no remdesivir or plasma available -- if this happens in the near term.
The manufacturer of remdesivir was only able to come up with 1700 doses for a recent trial. I expect the situation to improve as they manufacturer more.
Here is the thing. If you were seriously, ill with the Corona Virus and you were on the brink of death, wouldn't you want to be treated with Hydroxychloroquine or be hooked to a ventilator? Or are you going to wait for clinical trials which could take, how long? Say one year? You would be long dead, right? Actually, the father of one doctor who was 96 years of age thought he would die. He was treated with Hydroxychloroquine and got better. It should be the decision of the doctor and the patient. If you do not want it, I imagine the doctor can easily intubate you and hook you to a ventilator. I guess it would not matter because chances are good, you will die anyway. More patients have died being hooked to a ventilator than from Hydroxychloroquine.
So you provide on anecdotal story of one person who was treated with hydroxychloroquine and survived. I can provide nine stories of people I grew up with in New York who were treated with hydroxychloroquine, graduated to ventilators and are no longer with us.
80% of people who are hooked up to ventilators in New York die. If this sub-set of patients was not hooked up to ventilators then nearly 100% of them would die.
You are asserting that hydroxychloroquine-based therapy will stop patients from needing ventilators; there is no medical evidence at this time to support this assertion. In fact most in-depth studies from the past week are showing the opposite.
I don't know. A doctor who works at ER in CA treating CV patients says that some people die regardless of what he does (combo, Remsdivir, oxygen, ventilator) to help them survive. Probably it is the strain, genetics? Who knows. But many people who have been close to dying according to they themselves, including TDSrs, have survived because of the combo. Pure luck? Who knows. In the meantime Novartis started phase 3 trials on Hydroxychoroquine this week.
Doctors are now pushing ventilators way further out than they were because the fatality rate is so high. Now they are working with cpap machines and repositioning the patients too not let the lungs become so saturated on either the front or the back.
Of course. The only thing I would say is that "unproven" these days is a lot of gray area. If there is a small study that shows promise, it is OK to have hope. I do not consider the CDC and WHO to be the authority on health anymore, as crazy as it sounds. They've shown themselves to be bureaucratic, bloated and ineffective. Even political.
I think Trump should have culpability here. Not just in this case, but in the main. He pushed it from his bully pulpit. People bought into it. They took him at his word. He needs to own it.
What more do you need?
NIH Panel Recommends Against Using Hydroxychloroquine And Azithromycin, Drug Combination Touted By Trump:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachel...y-trump-outside-clinical-trials/#7802b7e34b40
What more do you need?
NIH Panel Recommends Against Using Hydroxychloroquine And Azithromycin, Drug Combination Touted By Trump:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachel...y-trump-outside-clinical-trials/#7802b7e34b40
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Liberals want people to die. To scuttle the economy so Trump loses in November. The evidence on Hydroxycholorquine + Azyithromicin are overwhelmingly great.
All the globalist studies use patients with severe COVID19 and/or are extremely small in sample size. HCQ doesn't work well with severe symptoms. Which is why they used them. To skew the results. etc.
All the globalist studies use patients with severe COVID19 and/or are extremely small in sample size. HCQ doesn't work well with severe symptoms. Which is why they used them. To skew the results. etc.