A word about redistribution of wealth

Quote from Jayford:

The original story made a very good point.

Obama wants to take money from people who work their asses off, and give it to people that don't work at all. Yes, his "tax credits" are even available to people that do not pay taxes. He wants to give them a check!

If that isn't wealth redistribution, I do not know what is.
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Im going to start off by not refuting that. However t he question I asked was whats the difference between what you just described and taxing 90% of us at a higher rate in order to pay for lower taxes on the very wealthy? Yes there are lazy bumbs around. Lets deal with them later, but the fact is a whollllllllllle lot of middle class folk in that 90% "work their asses off" too and there is a whole lot more of them.

The money has already BEEN redistributed. To the top income earners. Look at the charts I posted. Income redistribution has already happened
 
Quote from Jayford:

The original story made a very good point.

Obama wants to take money from people who work their asses off, and give it to people that don't work at all.
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Well yeah the Democrats do nothing but that, it's how they get votes. They got the black vote in the New Deal, it was the first time blacks in the USA ever got a full share of anything and it was not a bad thing at all. Currently, if the Democrats lost just a tenth of black voters to the Republican side they would be out of power forever. That's why Jessee Jackson /Obama types sue the private sector all the time, it makes blacks unemployable in the private sector so they are dependent on Democrats for public sector jobs and massive, massive infusions of money via welfare and a zillion programs... when a Democrat says he's helping the poor it means he is handing out massive welfare money to loyal voters.
 
Quote from AMT4SWA:

I make more sense then your obama cheerleading ever will! :cool:
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I made a legitimate point, if you cant handle the stress of an actual discussion just stick to your infowars spam. I've yet to see you say ANYTHING that even remotely resembles a point.
 
Bush did a wonderful job of redistributing wealth.

He took all he could from his low life supporters and gave it all to his wealthy buddies.

Not only did Bush redistribute wealth to the wealthy.

He stole from them by working with the god damn saudis to raise oil prices.

The resulting inflation is a hidden tax on his low life supporters.

Without Bush making his low life supporters starve, they would never have come to their senses.

Now the maggots are starving, we see they no longer care about vagina politics.

Way to go Bush.




Quote from jonbig04:

It seems the conservatives hate it. Why give away the wealth someone earned via higher taxes to someone else that doesn't make much money? That's class warfare...you are punishing the rich people by raising their taxes to pay for the lower taxes of the middle class. You're redistributing wealth. That's Un-American!

Oh wait a second. For the past 8 years this is exactly what has been going on! The very thing you conservatives hate is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. The only difference is the wealth has been being distributed to the very rich class. The middle class pay much more on a percentage basis than the very rich, so effectively the middle class is paying for the tax cuts on the rich. The middle class is being punished...well...for no good reason. Don't take my word for it, look at the stats. For the past years the wealth has been trickling up to the top more and more. Class warfare? The top 5% hold 50% of all the wealth and growing, while the middle class has seen their wages stall or drop. This IS class warfare.
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Quote from jonbig04:

I made a legitimate point, if you cant handle the stress of an actual discussion just stick to your infowars spam. I've yet to see you say ANYTHING that even remotely resembles a point.
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15% flat tax for ALL.....ready whenever you are!

Tax derived social engineering is a FAILED reality no matter which way you sell it. The entrapment of so many in the failed two party LEFT/RIGHT paradigm is exactly what the globalists want......they thank you! :eek:
 
12 years of Republican Congress

8 years of Bush

This is where you'll end up if you vote for McCain.





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Bush ran the same system run by Clinton, Bush , Reagan, Carter, Ford.............................Roosevelt, Hoover and so on. The shit hit the fan on his watch.

They asked David Ortiz about the Yankee/RedSox rivalry, and David probably flabbergasted the Henry/Steinbrenner clans by saying "we like those guys. ' Why not? They all make huge money, play the same game, are the same ages, experience the same things. The 'rivalry ' sells tickets and newspapers. Now, except for the ages, do you see how the politicians are exactly the same? We all fight about this and that. The Pols come out spew their shit, go behind closed doors and pat each other on the backs like movie bad guys after the good guy kills them. It 's a game. What happened was, the clock ran out on the Wall St. machine. And Bush gets the prize.

I had the misfortune to be involved way too deep in this morass, and many times, the bad guys have spread the money out so big name Dems and Republicans are really on the same team, pitching for the same bad guys. And Bush' name shows up as the kingpin all the time with many Democratic Senators. I really don't see many Republican names show up. But Bush is there like hair in an armpit.

So you tell me. You go out, and represent yourself as an Obama backer, and you don't know anything about him. Nothing. You know a bunch of shit he spews on TV. What we KNOW about him is not very appealing. He's a showman, and an empty shirt. He's like Clinton, but Clinton was empty pants.

I'm voting McCain. It's an anti Obama vote, but McCain for his foibles appears to be a decent man and he does love the Country. There isn't wealth, or eternal life in it for him. And why he wants to spend his remaining years dealing with this shit is beyond me. But I think he'll win, as people come to their senses.

That being said, if I had a chance to sit with the Chosen One, we might become fast friends. I doubt it. But how do you know? I know people in the City who know TV personallities and they actually like people I can't stand. The personalities are different then what you see on TV. Except Gasparino. Everyone says he's the same in real life. How charming.
 
Quote from jonbig04:

Wake up, the very thing you oppose is already happening. There is a class war, and the middle class is getting dominated year after year. Redistribution of wealth? 5% holding 50% of the wealth? I would say current policy has redistributed wealth very very efficiently.
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what middle class?
 
Quote from jonbig04:

Some of you will say the the upper class pay the vast majority of income tax and that is true. Why? Because thats where all the money is. The middle class don't account for that much revenue. Why? Its not because they dont pay their taxes, and its because they have a low tax rate...its because they have such a small piece of the pie, their taxes don't amount to much.
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if that is the case then they are not middle class, they're fucking poor

there are different levels of poverty

most people don't realize that they are fucking replaceable slaves, and that that is why their existence doesn't mean shit to those who own their ass

what i don't get is; who are you trying to educate? most people in this world are not only deprived of wealth but of dignity, but they won't even understand that, because they are too stupid to

like I look at my neighbor, you know he has put up a flag of the university he went to some 20 years ago on his door, and that is what he finds pride in, how fucking stupid can a man get, you tell me?
 
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