A suggestion for struggling traders

The job of a trader is to recognize opportunity...not follow the market. That's the herd mentality, and the majority are always wrong.

I agree that the information the market gives us is neutral. We decide on our reaction to it. I read Douglas' book and it really helped me release feelings of right/wrong in the market. Money management is alot more important. I don't
really care if I loose as long as my risk is managed.
 
...and you will suffer less and make more than just the "fader".
Quote from MandelbrotSet:

I hear what you're saying PTF ... so just reverse the thinking and always trade with the dominant trend, and I'll be on board with you 100% :D

Nah, do your thing and I'll do mine, it's what makes the merry-go-round.
 
Quote from ProfitTakgFool:


Anyone who walks into the office tomorrow thinking, "I'm bullish today and I'm going crazy long" is flat out done. Just take the triggers that are presented and take the money the market offers you.


Part of having a plan is making sure you know what trade you are looking for. The objective of trading is not so much to be right but take the "best" opportunites available. Obviously being crazy long from the jump is a bad idea and can create financial ruin but there is more of the possibility that if you are trading with the trend you can take a good amount out of the market more than most. So some days I come into the office saying I am bullish BUT I will not enter a trade until this or that happens. OR I sit on my hands and read a book. Just because my long isn't confirmed that day doesn't mean my overall big picture view has changed. I want the highest probability setup and am willing to wait for it. There is nothing wrong with an opinion if you can create rules that get you out of the trade when that opinion is wrong.
 
I agree,

I remember buying GE on a gap down hoping it would bounce. I bought it all the way down til like noon.

I was getting upset that it wouldnt have any real bounce, but when I checked my net I was up! I had paid a boat load of fees, but I was making money buying a tanking stock by trading into my position. In the end I got out on the first decent reversal. I can't remember if it retraced its gap or not.

I dont think id ever attempt it on an overnight position tho, lol





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Another brief thought for struggling traders.....if someone put a trend, or a chop zone, or some chart of data in front of you and told you to examine it what would you do? I suspect you'd probably go about your business in an objective way and come out with some sort of conclusion, based on the data that is presented to you.

So why is it traders tend to lose their objectivity when they enter the stock market. The stock market is nothing more than data. It's just a historical road map that represents a collision of a multitude of data samples. Approach the stock market from an objective viewpoint. Put your finger over the AAPL, or RIMM, or QCOM, or ES ticker for a moment, and just look at the data. What is it telling you?

I get a good laugh when the gurus get on TV and pump XYZ. All they are doing is pumping a data set.

Your response may be, "But dude, AAPL has the iPhone, iPod, kicks MSFT's butt, etc...." I hear you, but these are nothing more than explanatory variables. I'm not saying there's no place for fundamental analysis, and competition doesn't matter, but when it comes down to it the only thing that really matters is if you can examine the data in an <i>objective way.</i> Before you've had a chance to think about that forget about what you think or what you want. Just let the chart talk to you.

Free yourself from the burden of having to be right!
 
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