a solution to US china trade imbalance

Chinese are always grateful for for that.
Having said that, China would defeat japan even w/o US help. it just took much longer and many more lives.






Quote from TraderZones:

Funny about that which served them (China) well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

Seems like the US sank over 90% of the Japanese military vessels, had a lot of major skirmishes with them, dropped a couple of atomic bombs and gave a lot of aid and support to China. China managed to exit their conflict with Japan near Civil war, with 10 million+ dead, in ruins in many places, etc. If the US had not dealt such blows to them, China may still be a Japanese play-toy.
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Quote from traderzhangSan:

In stead of crying foul about china trade surplus, US can do the following things to have a balanced trade with China.

1 change the laws which discriminate china firms to invest in US. Basically let china buy US assets and take controlling shares. I think China is very interested to buy Boeing , Intel, applied material. China will fire most workers and take bright engineers and equipment to china and move those companies head offices and main production and research to China, US offices will be sales and marketing divisions.
this will cut 3-400 B trade imbalance.

2 sell some hard assets to china like timber , soy bean etc, this helps

3 sell some land to china , so china can use them for food production in US

I am sure that will solve problems for both countries.

There is no free lunch in this world. you have trade deficit and if your products are not competitive, you have to sell your assets.
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Exotic proposals.
 
Quote from PocketChange:

The Chinese rain of missiles on U.S. installations and homeland cities was a military masterpiece. The People's Liberation Army Second Artillery Corp achieved complete surprise, armed only with a small force of more than 300 tactical and 10 strategic missiles.

Defenseless against the attack, U.S. forces in Hawaii, Alaska, South Korea and Japan were quickly overwhelmed by the guided warheads of the Chinese missiles. The bombs plunged out of the inky blackness of space, striking within seconds of each other. The rain of death fell swiftly upon a sleeping America with precise and devastating accuracy.

In a span of little more than 30 minutes, China wiped out Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, San Diego, Chicago, Washington, Boston, New York, Hawaii, Manila, Seoul, Taipei and Tokyo.

China sank five U.S. carriers, seven Ohio class submarines, vaporized more than 200 MX and Minuteman missiles and destroyed more than 800 combat aircraft including 15 B-2 strategic bombers. The strikes also killed more than 100 million people without the loss of a single PLA soldier.

The Second Artillery succeeded by striking key U.S. bases, warships and air fields with a swift and bold attack. The attack left China with 10 remaining strategic missiles and nearly 300 tactical missiles, holding the devastated U.S. homeland hostage to another strike.

Despite the calls to retaliate, sending the scattered remains of U.S. nuclear forces against China would not stop another attack on America, nor would it stop the PLA Generals who ordered the first.

There is no question that the U.S. strategic missiles could devastate the Chinese homeland. However, killing hundreds of millions of innocent Chinese citizens would do little to deter the warlords in Beijing from launching the second wave of 10 missiles while remaining hidden inside bomb-proof tunnels.
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Pretty funny fiction. There is no doubt in my mind that long before those strategic missiles hit mainland US we would have already launched ours and would totally annihilate China at the same time.

The idea that we wouldn't retaliate because we may or may not kill those responsible is ludicrous. Clearly targeting China's military forces including their remaining strategic missiles would be a priority.

No point arguing about it - no one knows for sure how it would play out but I think the premise of the article you quoted is total rubbish.
 
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Pretty funny fiction. There is no doubt in my mind that long before those strategic missiles hit mainland US we would have already launched ours and would totally annihilate China at the same time.

The idea that we wouldn't retaliate because we may or may not kill those responsible is ludicrous. Clearly targeting China's military forces including their remaining strategic missiles would be a priority.

No point arguing about it - no one knows for sure how it would play out but I think the premise of the article you quoted is total rubbish.
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On wikipedia, China has 400-500 nuclear missiles, and the US over 10,000. Do they even have a single aircraft carrier yet?

It was hard enough on the USSR-USA nuclear MAD, to prevent launches when a glitch happened. China eliminates the western USA without response...

100 million US dead and not a single PLA death. That is what happens when the Chinese army heads daydream while smoking opium...

At some point, the last major communist government will pass into history. They are governing a people mostly with little interest in retaining them longterm. As someone in Chongching said when I visited (we basically ignore them).

The creators of this should read "The Mouse that Roared..."
 
As was pointed out, the U.S. has over 10,000 acknowledged nuclear devices.

Occasionally in the past the U.S. has employed equally large unacknowledged systems. What you see is the tip of the iceberg.

I think the Chinese nuclear weapons could destroy millions in the USA, no doubt about it. But the U.S. nuclear weaponry could transform China into a glass-floored self-lighting parking lot, for real. Not a living soul remaining across asia. The Chinese people and culture would be a memory.

MAD is alive and well.

China is actually a very fragile country, its forces undisciplined, its equipment shody, its training dubious, its intentions malevolent.

The OP should be waterboarded just for the fun of it. :cool: I mean, seriously, the Japanese army totally owned China with only a couple of divisions. The chinese just don't have the belly for war.
 
man, I never said China would wage a war against US.
It is well known China nuclear arsenal is small and only for retaliate purpose.
Everybody know that US has capability to wipe out the earth many times.

But one other hand, if nuclear war is forced upon China, China has no choice but fight back to make sure everyone die. it is just as simple as that.




Quote from 377OHMS:

As was pointed out, the U.S. has over 10,000 acknowledged nuclear devices.

Occasionally in the past the U.S. has employed equally large unacknowledged systems. What you see is the tip of the iceberg.

I think the Chinese nuclear weapons could destroy millions in the USA, no doubt about it. But the U.S. nuclear weaponry could transform China into a glass-floored self-lighting parking lot, for real. Not a living soul remaining across asia. The Chinese people and culture would be a memory.

MAD is alive and well.

China is actually a very fragile country, its forces undisciplined, its equipment shody, its training dubious, its intentions malevolent.

The OP should be waterboarded just for the fun of it. :cool: I mean, seriously, the Japanese army totally owned China with only a couple of divisions. The chinese just don't have the belly for war.
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Screw the Chinese, we need to just forget about them. Why don't we set up manufacturing facilities in Central & South America to compete directly with the Chinese? Then all of our export/import problems would be solved and the Chinese can take their pegged currency and shove it up their dumpling chutes. Either this idea or impose a 20% import tax on everything imported from China to the US. That's my solution.
 
Quote from Sam Mcgee:

I think a simple solution would be to change from an income tax system to a consumption tax system. Set the consumption tax high enough to replace the income tax. Also make it illegal for any level of government to run a defecit.

The tax would probably have to be relatively high, say 20 or 30 percent. People would have a lot of incentive to save and invest to avoid the tax instead of sending all their money out of the country to buy cheap imports.
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Do you seriously think that people living paycheck to paycheck and barely making it with sales taxes around 8% would survive with taxes all of a sudden at 30%? Keep in mind that over 50% of Us citizens survive paycheck to paycheck at least a portion of the year. This consumption tax is a poorly thought out idea and just a way for high earners not to pay their fair share of taxes.
 
Obviously the article is fiction and dates back to circa 2002. Back then we were a much stronger nation both from an economic and military perspective. An amusing read none the less seeing that in just the past 7 years our fortunes have changed.


Quote from 377OHMS:

As was pointed out, the U.S. has over 10,000 acknowledged nuclear devices.

Occasionally in the past the U.S. has employed equally large unacknowledged systems. What you see is the tip of the iceberg.

I think the Chinese nuclear weapons could destroy millions in the USA, no doubt about it. But the U.S. nuclear weaponry could transform China into a glass-floored self-lighting parking lot, for real. Not a living soul remaining across asia. The Chinese people and culture would be a memory.

MAD is alive and well.

China is actually a very fragile country, its forces undisciplined, its equipment shody, its training dubious, its intentions malevolent.

The OP should be waterboarded just for the fun of it. :cool: I mean, seriously, the Japanese army totally owned China with only a couple of divisions. The chinese just don't have the belly for war.
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