a solution to US china trade imbalance

thriftybob · Mar 21, 2010

They can't even make a can opener that will last through opening the first can.

Tell me again why they would kill all their customers?

PocketChange · Mar 21, 2010

Why?

They have a system that has served them well for 5000 years.
Was India not stronger pre-british with their hundreds of autonomous states, languages and currencies?

I don't think we carry the power to lord over either China or India.
Our democracy is really just a big DC circle jerk.

Quote from jagadish:

Let China become a democratic nation first and then we will think of these proposals.

MohdSalleh · Mar 21, 2010

Quote from PocketChange:

War With China

by Charles R. Smith

On the first day of World War III, the United States lost two-thirds of its military and nearly half its population, yielding superiority to communist China. U.S. orders of the day were of high alert, and there is simply no evading the fact that we were not ready.

The Chinese rain of missiles on U.S. installations and homeland cities was a military masterpiece. The People's Liberation Army Second Artillery Corp achieved complete surprise, armed only with a small force of more than 300 tactical and 10 strategic missiles.

Defenseless against the attack, U.S. forces in Hawaii, Alaska, South Korea and Japan were quickly overwhelmed by the guided warheads of the Chinese missiles. The bombs plunged out of the inky blackness of space, striking within seconds of each other. The rain of death fell swiftly upon a sleeping America with precise and devastating accuracy.

In a span of little more than 30 minutes, China wiped out Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, San Diego, Chicago, Washington, Boston, New York, Hawaii, Manila, Seoul, Taipei and Tokyo.

China sank five U.S. carriers, seven Ohio class submarines, vaporized more than 200 MX and Minuteman missiles and destroyed more than 800 combat aircraft including 15 B-2 strategic bombers. The strikes also killed more than 100 million people without the loss of a single PLA soldier.

The Second Artillery succeeded by striking key U.S. bases, warships and air fields with a swift and bold attack. The attack left China with 10 remaining strategic missiles and nearly 300 tactical missiles, holding the devastated U.S. homeland hostage to another strike.

Sun Tzu art of war?:eek:

MohdSalleh · Mar 21, 2010

they are coming....

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PocketChange · Mar 21, 2010

If the Chinese Government had bailed out the Wall Street Bankers.
How many would have received Bonuses?
How many would have received Bullets?

China at some point will demand to be paid and our Government with no more cards to play is going to default and tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Quote from Sam Mcgee:

Why would China initiate World War 3 against the USA when they're already winning an economic war without any blood shed?
What would the trillions of dollars of American currency that the Chinese hold be worth if they started a war? The Chinese are well on their way to owning most of the United States, why would they do anything to spoil that?

thriftybob · Mar 21, 2010

LOL, they DID bail it out. They just didn't KNOW about it till after the money was spent.

PocketChange · Mar 21, 2010

Yes Indeed

Quote from thriftybob:

LOL, they DID bail it out. They just didn't KNOW about it till after the money was spent.

traderzhangSan · Mar 21, 2010

total nonsense!
Why would China want to do this to face the danger of total annihilation?

Quote from PocketChange:

Man... Open your eyes.

The Chindians have 5000 years of history.
Both had been very advanced compared to the rest of the world for all but maybe 100 years if that. They out number us damn near 10 - 1 and they have nukes.

You don't see very many people starting shit with the Chinese.
The Indians being the worlds largest democracy maybe easier to manipulate and corrupt.

Seeing the Chinese have ramped up there military forces to over 7 million compared to our 2 million leads me to believe a conflict will soon erupt.

War With China

by Charles R. Smith

On the first day of World War III, the United States lost two-thirds of its military and nearly half its population, yielding superiority to communist China. U.S. orders of the day were of high alert, and there is simply no evading the fact that we were not ready.

The Chinese rain of missiles on U.S. installations and homeland cities was a military masterpiece. The People's Liberation Army Second Artillery Corp achieved complete surprise, armed only with a small force of more than 300 tactical and 10 strategic missiles.

TraderZones · Mar 21, 2010

Quote from PocketChange:

Why?

They have a system that has served them well for 5000 years.
Was India not stronger pre-british with their hundreds of autonomous states, languages and currencies?

I don't think we carry the power to lord over either China or India.
Our democracy is really just a big DC circle jerk.

Funny about that which served them (China) well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

Seems like the US sank over 90% of the Japanese military vessels, had a lot of major skirmishes with them, dropped a couple of atomic bombs and gave a lot of aid and support to China. China managed to exit their conflict with Japan near Civil war, with 10 million+ dead, in ruins in many places, etc. If the US had not dealt such blows to them, China may still be a Japanese play-toy.

zdreg · Mar 21, 2010

Quote from Sam Mcgee:

I think a simple solution would be to change from an income tax system to a consumption tax system. Set the consumption tax high enough to replace the income tax. Also make it illegal for any level of government to run a defecit.

The tax would probably have to be relatively high, say 20 or 30 percent. People would have a lot of incentive to save and invest to avoid the tax instead of sending all their money out of the country to buy cheap imports.

show 1 country where the consumption tax has replaced the income tax.
there are no simple solutions if politicians are involved.