Oh my, that will increase costs for certain.
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A Republican that has to vote for Obama, Why?
- Thread starter bwolinsky
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Oh my, that will increase costs for certain.
The 5k for all tax payers is nowhere as bad as establishing universal healthcare. The liberals will argue that universal health care works for other countries but that is because their country isn't the one developing all the drugs. If Universal healthcare is put in place then the development of drugs will be harshly decreased, the quality of healthcare will decrease and taxes will increase. You might want to rethink your positions.
Quote from bwolinsky:
WTF does this say! Directly from the McCain website:
Where Is The Middle-Class "Tax Increase"? If you or your family is in the 28% bracket, with an income of $180,000, you could receive employer provided health insurance even better than a Member of Congress, with a cost of almost $18,000, with no increase in taxes. Even the liberal leaning Tax Policy Center, agrees that the McCain proposals will result in a "net tax benefit" of more than $1,200 for an average tax payer. A recent Lewin Group study estimated savings of more than $1,400 per American family â almost three times the savings as under the Obama plan
This reads that if I make $180,000, I would pay $18,000 for my health care, which is a tax, net $13,000 after tax. WTF IS THIS!
What they are saying there is the $18K is added to your income. If you're in the 28% bracket that creates a tax of about $5K. However, you're going to receive a tax credit of $5K, so it's a wash. The $18K premium is employer paid health insurance.
This $18K must be one helluva plan. My wife and I pay less than half that...I'm 63, she's in her mid 50s.
Note: you pick your own plan, you don't have to spend $18K on health insurance.
OldTrader
Quote from NeoRio1:
The 5k for all tax payers is nowhere as bad as establishing universal healthcare. The liberals will argue that universal health care works for other countries but that is because their country isn't the one developing all the drugs. If Universal healthcare is put in place then the development of drugs will be harshly decreased, the quality of healthcare will decrease and taxes will increase. You might want to rethink your positions.
All true, very good points.
Quote from oktiri:
People like you make me sad. instead of clamoring for your right to get health insurance as in ANY other civilized rich country. you succumb to the mirage of homeopathic/ plant medicine.
You're not going to ramp up this trading business, it's a talent, it requires contrarian thinking, strong pattern recognition skills and fast decision making. I don't think anyone who's a political hack and thus weak minded and in search of approval able to be a good trader. Both just don't mix. Successful Traders have to be intellectually lonely to bet against the crowd.
LOL
Quote from oktiri:
I'm adding the motherfucker that you are to my ignore list, never seen you post anything of value, asshole
I thought all you assholes on the left were supposed to be sensitive to other's needs! I bet if we had pure communism you would be the biggest intolerant slacker in your neighborhood...
Having Health insurance in the USA sucks. A tooth extraction, when I was employed and had insurance, cost $500 or so to the insurance and even more to me. Out of work, no insurance, I had a tooth extracted for $158, out the door, no junk mail-bills /insurance headaches, nothing.. and there was little difference in the quality of work at all. It was not at a freebie clinic or anything of the kind, I just shopped for price essentially... If I had to have insurance, be it private or public, I want catastrophic coverage [or bankruptcy works too]
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:
Having Health insurance in the USA sucks. A tooth extraction, when I was employed and had insurance, cost $500 or so to the insurance and even more to me. Out of work, no insurance, I had a tooth extracted for $158, out the door, no junk mail-bills /insurance headaches, nothing.. and there was little difference in the quality of work at all. It was not at a freebie clinic or anything of the kind, I just shopped for price essentially... If I had to have insurance, be it private or public, I want catastrophic coverage [or bankruptcy works too]
For Doctors, they have to have (typically) two assistants just to process the insurance paperwork. That overhead costs money.
In Canada, by contrast, in British Columbia, the doctor doesn't need to have two assistants, because all filing is done online, paperless, with a single payer. Much lower overhead.
The 25 dollar Miami dental care cleaning past sanity is talking about:
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