A question to people that don't "believe" in TA

All I am saying is that at certain levels there are many buyers or sellers for whatever reason.

When prices on a later stage, which can be six months, approach or break thru these levels it has an effect.

Very obvious and logical. This is TA.
 
"Anti TA folks make the case that everything they need to see , can be seen with price"

if they are using PRICE, (unless they are using it to compare to earnings, etc) they are

wait for it...

USING TA

why is that so hard to understand?

RSI is a derivative of price. it is TA

but so is simply watching price. or time/sales, etc.

those are all TA


why is that so hard to understand? TA does not mean INDICATORS. indicators are a subset OF TA.
 
Quote from whitster:

"Anti TA folks make the case that everything they need to see , can be seen with price"

if they are using PRICE, (unless they are using it to compare to earnings, etc) they are

wait for it...

USING TA

why is that so hard to understand?

RSI is a derivative of price. it is TA

but so is simply watching price. or time/sales, etc.

those are all TA


why is that so hard to understand? TA does not mean INDICATORS. indicators are a subset OF TA.
Of course, indicators are just one part of TA. I am not claiming that they are the only items in the TA toolbox. However TA does mean indicators. It also means trendlines and moving averages etc etc etc. --- Anyone who is not using TA ie indicators etc is just wrongheaded or won't admit that they use TA. This will be my last post here in this thread. I have said the essential things that need to be said.
 
i have also postulated that the TA debate is actually a "left brain--right brain" type debate.

the creative, artististic trading types are drawn ( LOL ) to TA since it fits their visual world view regardless of the untestability of the hypothesis. in addition, engineers also seem to be attracted to the graphing and putting broad concepts into easily understood boxes--- as they are trained to do with slide rules and the other little trinkets of their trade.

those who look at the market pragmatically and not from a pre biased state of prefering left/right brain are in a superior starting point for analysis.

surfer
 
Quote from ivob:

Of course TA works. Because of human nature.

For instance support and resistance.

Imagine:

stage 1: at 10 many people buy a stock after having been in a trading range between 9 and 10.
stage 2: stock goes up to 12
stage 3: stock goes down to 10.

Many people who saw the stock going up from 10 to 12 will buy because they missed the rally before. Very simple. There are usually buyers right above 10.

If for whatever reason stock goes to let's say 9.50, People who previously bought around 10 will sell because they see the position turned against them and do not want to take a loss. Usually stock will go down more. (so because of underlying conditions -something happened- and because of the people who were wrong before and have to correct this)

However, nowadays people make TA more complex then it is. For me it just means certain pricelevels are important because I think there are many buyers or sellers at those levels. At those levels you can draw lines, support and resistance.

Just the fact that a stock that has been going up for a while is usually going up more proves that TA works.

just my 2 cents

regards,
Ivo

interesting. Does TA belong in the latest release of GOOGLE Finance? It has alot but curiously misses this whole area. Things like 200MA, Average Volatility, Average Daily Volume, etc.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

the creative, artististic trading types are drawn ( LOL ) to TA since it fits their visual world view regardless of the untestability of the hypothesis . . .

surfer

Stated appropriately from one who is scared to test it.

"Opinions are like bottom orifices and as plentiful . . . some just smell better than others"

By the way, its artistic and "untestability" is not a word. You're a writer, correct?
 
Quote from Charlie Dow:



By the way, its artistic and "untestability" is not a word. You're a writer, correct?


it's called artistic freedom. LOL !

you really missed the purpose of the spelling.

surfer

:p
 
marketsurfer, TA works because it is ultimately a result of human psychology

price reflects opinion

the market is made up of people. peopkle have opinions. those opinions are reflected in price

greed, fear, euphoria, panic, etc. affect opinion, which affects price. this is reflected in charts and price patterns

this has been true since ... well... forever.

look back to tulipmania centuries ago. history repeats itself because human nature has not changed
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

it's called artistic freedom. LOL !

you really missed the purpose of the spelling.

surfer

:p

I did but I know you didn't miss the point of the post.
 
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