A planet with no money

Quote from bearice:

It is the same story everywhere.

It is man's history throughout the ages.

Socialistic forces and desires... both from those who covet power.. and those who are happy to "get anything for free which they can"... constantly eat at and erode that which made America great.

Too bad the average citizen won't study world history a bit to learn and appreciate how special American has been. And with that knowledge, acquire the desire to preserve it. :( :(
 
Quote from Sanaz3:

There is no need to emphasize how much we humans have been enslaved by money, how our lives and futures depend on it, and how much pain and suffering it has brought to our lives. Ever woke up in the morning, knowing you got no job, the rent/mortgage is due, no health insurance, no money left to buy food for the family, and no prospect of things getting any better on the horizon? Well here is what I consider the solution to put an end to such miseries once and for all. A world without money: no more fears of job losses/cuts, no more fears of home foreclosures, no more fears of being behind with the rent, no more 9-5 40-60 hrs/week working, no more unemployment, no more deadlines to be met, no more Governments to tax, exploit, and oppress the nations, no more Federal Reserves and Central banks and debts, no more stock markets, nor recessions, nor inflation, nor housing bubbles, no more crimes and prisons, no more geographical borders, no more Communism, Capitalism, Democracy...politics, no more Robber barons and warmongers...none!


This ain't a daft idea and will work, no matter how ridiculous or silly it may appear in ages where making or having money is the key to everything. A planet without any monetary system, that is what we will need to have if we ALL want to enjoy happy lives alongside our friends and loved ones. It would be a win-win situation for everybody as cooperation and volunteering would replace competition, leading to EVERYBODY enjoying working together to produce goods and services which would meet our essential needs and demands.

As demand would absolutely surpass the supply since everything could be obtained for free, surely by getting everybody to volunteer ("work"), soon this issue would be resolved. We would then need to identify and prioritize the needs and goods in demand, and accordingly people with no jobs would plan to volunteer to meet those demands. As for the current industries and businesses, they would continue to do what they are doing now. The aim is to have a world in which money does not exist any more but people are working, producing, doing research, building, manufacturing, fishing, designing, etc while enjoying the activity of work and the company of each other and life in general.

There is absolutely no shortage of human and natural resources on this planet and that's all it takes to put science, knowledge, skills, expertise, and technology to work in order to provide a better future for ourselves. We just need to take the "money" out of the equation, that's all. Farmers would continue to grow the same crops, vegetables, etc and when they need more manpower in the agriculture or any other sectors such as mining, road construction, auto industry, aerospace....we would certainly have plenty of human resources (engineers, scientists, technicians, etc) to happily contribute in any way they can. In fact people would then love to work or help out wherever they want and for as much as they want, wouldn't they? There would be no profits to be made, nor any money or investments to be lost in any enterprise or jobs, simple as that!

You may ask why would people then be motivated to work if everything was free? Everything would be free so long as people would honestly and fairly contribute to their society in any way they can at any jobs or professions. I don't see any reason why people would then stop working, believing that from now on food will fall from the sky into their mouth and pre-fabricated houses would glide down to earth from above the clouds, etc. No, this is not a fantasy world, but an inevitable reality to happen at some point in the future. Money and pursuit of wealth throughout history has destroyed and will destroy not only the ideal standards of life, but also the lives.

To establish such an 'Utopian society', we would certainly need to develop an entirely new mindset and mentality towards the social life without money. A 100% volunteer-run society in a nutshell! What's wrong with that?

P.S.
Some related information on the subject:

History of money: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0IJCGuNtqk

'Jacques Fresco' Youtube videos and The Venus Project http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php

http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Glimpse-of...-Without-Money

Something would take money's place. Like oil, ammo, food. You better tell Fresco to concentrate on the hurricane proof house instead...now that I like.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

America was founded upon nearly perfect principles.

But greedy Socialists and greedy, self-serving politicians F'ed it up.

I hesitate to blame the politicians. Yes they are greedy but it's part of the human makup. To be devoid of greed is to be non-human. Greed and strive to have more and more has partly driven our species. The founding fathers were well aware of this and hence drew up a constitution that would as much as possible decentralise power and tie one hand behind the federal government's back. The fact that politicians have accepted bribes by lobbyists till we are at the point where the constitution is largely ignored should be no surprise (hint it's that all human trait of greed). "We The People" are as much to blame for not forcing politicians to respect the constition at ALL times.
 
Quote from ElCubano:

Something would take money's place. Like oil, ammo, food. You better tell Fresco to concentrate on the hurricane proof house instead...now that I like.

The notion of an economic society or economic world without money is STUPID! The only reasonable alternative is barter... which is stifling and too inconvenient.
 
Quote from DrEvil:

I hesitate to blame the politicians. Yes they are greedy but it's part of the human makup. To be devoid of greed is to be non-human. Greed and strive to have more and more has partly driven our species. The founding fathers were well aware of this and hence drew up a constitution that would as much as possible decentralise power and tie one hand behind the federal government's back. The fact that politicians have accepted bribes by lobbyists till we are at the point where the constitution is largely ignored should be no surprise (hint it's that all human trait of greed). "We The People" are as much to blame for not forcing politicians to respect the constition at ALL times.

Correctamundo. "We the people" SHOULD have been more vigilant all along. That we were not, for whatever reason, has allowed the liars, cheaters, greedy, usurpers and power hungry to gather control over the ages. Obama, ASSHOLE that he is... is merely the "golden spike" which finalizes our destiny of enslavement.

Unfortunately, the "Great American Experiment" will end as some sort of dictator or oligarchy ascends to power and dominance... as it has all through world financial and governmental history. The world would be a much better and happier place if it were the other way around. :( :(
 
I think a much better project for Fresco would be to acquire a large piece of land and invite all the freedom loving people of the world. He doesn't even need to write a constitution, he can borrow from the U.S.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

The notion of an economic society or economic world without money is STUPID! The only reasonable alternative is barter... which is stifling and too inconvenient.

How do you know what a world without money would be like? You've never experienced it and are only using your own life on Earth as a judge of what it would be like. Maybe a society without money is almost fully automated and have necessary technology to produce goods and services with minimal effort from the people. Maybe people would only work 2 hours a day to contribute their efforts and talents and spend the rest of the time with their family and friends. Seems better than spending 10-12 hours a day at a job with barely enough to show for it to make ends meet.

Surely you can't believe that our society with all of the ills from money and power which produces corruption, famine, wars, genocide etc is an example of "highly evolved". Which member of the above two societies is the slave and which is free?
 
The Venus Project = Gilligan's Island = Pure fantasy. There is far too big a variation in peoples talents and skills for it to be otherwise, and there are far too many people who are inherently lazy, dumb and unwilling to make any contribution, and far too few Mother Teresas to take their place.
 
So there is no opportunity to get ahead of your neighbor, as the needs of everyone are met in the same way. Sounds like communism/socialism, and it would work just as well.

:p
 
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