This assumes you are in good health and don't take a slew of drugs to get through the day. If you have a history of breast cancer or spine surgery, or ....you get the idea...kiss that $340/month goodbye. Put a 2 in front of it and wait for it to change to a 3 once you have your first claim.
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A peek inside the Health Care Bill
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Quote from the1:
This assumes you are in good health and don't take a slew of drugs to get through the day. If you have a history of breast cancer or spine surgery, or ....you get the idea...kiss that $340/month goodbye. Put a 2 in front of it and wait for it to change to a 3 once you have your first claim.
Hopefully we have a public option plan with low prices for everyone. I don't know how most people can afford to pay $2,000 or 3,000 per month for insurance. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Does anyone know if you can keep your home and car, but still get Medicaid? What is the maximum amount you can keep in the bank to get Medicaid?
Quote from piezoe:
In case anyone here is interested in the truth, I suggest you go to the source rather than believing what you read in radical right wing publications such as WSJ or on websites sudsidized by special interest groups. Here is a link to the actual bill.
http://candicemiller.house.gov/pdf/hr3200.pdf
Also I might add that if any of you are capable of simple arithmetic you will know that the cost per person is less than $30/mo, which includes the government subsidy to those low wage earners that can not fully pay their premiums and the administrative costs. This ought to be more than compensated for by reductions in your private health insurance premiums that results from increased competition among insurers.
Yes, indeed, there is much to like about this Bill. Write your senator and tell him you want HR3200 passed unaltered.
It is time for the US to join the family of civilized nations by making quality affordable health care available to everyone.
It is unbelievable how far some special interest websites will go to kill this bill just to protect their interests so they can keep on screwing over the people in this country.
Quote from Vinny1:
It is unbelievable how far some special interest websites will go to kill this bill just to protect their interests so they can keep on screwing over the people in this country.
vinny you are naive
I do not know what the answer is, but I know what it is not......
DRs are crminals and have been stealing from us for decades, giving them more money, especially public money taken as taxes is sick and evil.
if drs cured anyone of anything my views would be aligned with yours..all they are is niw drug company whores.
Quote from spinn:
vinny you are naive
I do not know what the answer is, but I know what it is not......
DRs are crminals and have been stealing from us for decades, giving them more money, especially public money taken as taxes is sick and evil.
if drs cured anyone of anything my views would be aligned with yours..all they are is niw drug company whores.
I think they just plan to raise taxes by 5.4% for single people making over $500k per year and couples making over $1 million per year. No one needs that much money anyway, so they can afford to pay for those less fortunate.
Also, there will be monthly premiums for a public option plan, I'm sure alot cheaper than insurance companies, who are in it for a profit and have much higher administrative costs and high executive salaries.
Quote from Index piker:
If you believe this low cost 30$/month thing you have problems with gullibility and need to be careful of telemarketers,and trading system hucksters.
I'm simply using the CBO figures, at 350 million population it come to 25 bucks per month. It's that simple. Believe whatever you want. I don't care. One trillion over ten years to get all these folks insured is a terrific bargain as far as i'm concerned/ I'm happy to pay my share.
Quote from spinn:
vinny you are naive
I do not know what the answer is, but I know what it is not......
DRs are crminals and have been stealing from us for decades, giving them more money, especially public money taken as taxes is sick and evil.
if drs cured anyone of anything my views would be aligned with yours..all they are is niw drug company whores.
Spinn, hang in there, the AMA is next on the list. The only way to tackle this problem is to divide and conquer. Likely Obama learned that from Hillary. This is just the first step. Take on the insurance companies first, and get the AMA to help you gang up on them. Then go from there. It's a brilliant strategy, I hope you'll reconsider and start supporting the efforts being made to break the medical cartel, bring competition and free enterprise to medicine in the US, and bring costs under control. We all need to get behind this bill, because if we don't, the alternative is socialist single payer, and that would be not so good. There is no way around it. Something has to be done because medical costs are bankrupting individuals, small businesses, corporations and our government. The Obama approach to this problem is the right one in my opinion.
Quote from indahook:
Can somebody that is for this plan come forth and explain to us how expendable income reduction to the tune of 20% per household is a good thing?
How are we going to buy food, clothes for the kids, pay electric bills, pay mortgage and save for retirement after income tax, state tax, property tax and health care tax?
My effective tax rate is already 50% Add another 20% and i`m fucked...as are many.
Seriously, I need a liberal Dem to tell me how this is a good thing.
You are not going to hear a liberal Dem tell you why this is a 'good thing'. Liberal Dems do NOT think this is good: it is all we could get due to Republicans & conservative Dems caring more about protecting insurance companies than they are in providing Americans with health care.
Liberal Dems want a nationalize health care system that is paid for by everybody and everybody has access. It would be paid for by increasing the federal tax rates 2% for the current 15% bracket, 3% for the current 25%, 6% for the current 34% and 10% for the current 39% bracket.
A plan devised by liberal Dems would remove all footprints of the current 'private health insurance' companies. They provide absolutely ZERO health care to anybody. Multi-million dollar CEO's, middle managers whose sole purpose is DENYING medical care payments, and sales & marketing personel in the health insurance industry are nothing but leeches. Perhaps they could be re-trained into doctors, nurses, and technicians and, finally, actually provide 'health care' to people.
Hopefully, the current plan is simply the camels nose in the tent and, after detroying the current broken system we can effect real health care reform.
I don't think you're looking at this correctly. Isn't the $1T over 10 years what the government expects to collect in taxes and pay out to insure those who aren't insured through other sources? If you work and have insurance through your employer you don't fall into that $1T pool, do you?
Quote from piezoe:
I'm simply using the CBO figures, at 350 million population it come to 25 bucks per month. It's that simple. Believe whatever you want. I don't care. One trillion over ten years to get all these folks insured is a terrific bargain as far as i'm concerned/ I'm happy to pay my share.