A new take on global warming

[futurecurrents]

Quote from pspr:

Why do you always couch your statements in false information? I think you revel in wrapping your controversial beliefs in innocuous comments.

Pisspoor, you should be embarrassed to have been taken in by the FF corporate disinformation campaign. The FF industry relies on ideological dolts like you.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from tomdavis:

Before you "take exception" you should read the research supporting his hypothesis.

http://www.savoryinstitute.com/wp-c...vory_Inst_HM_Research_Portfolio_March2013.pdf

http://www.savoryinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Science_Methodology_Holistic_Mgt.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Holistic-Mana...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending


The evidence is piling up in his favor.


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1263-1270.

Follett, R.F., and Debbie A. Reed, 2010. Soil Carbon Sequestration in Grazing Lands: Societal
Benefits and Policy Implications. Rangeland Ecology Management. 63. 4-15.

Conant, R.T., 2010. Challenges and Opportunities for Carbon Sequestration in Grassland Systems: A
Technical Report on Grassland Management and Climate Change Mitigation.
Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. Vol. 9. 1-67

Fynn, A.J., P. Alvarez, J.R. Brown, M.R. George, C. Kustin, E.A. Laca, J.T. Oldfield, T. Schohr,
C.L. Neely, and C.P. Wong. 2009. Soil Carbon Sequestration in U.S. Rangelands Issues
Paper for Protocol Development. Environmental Defense Fund, New York, NY, USA. 1-47

Follett, R.F., Kimble, J.M., Lal, R., 2001. The Potential of U.S. Grazing Lands to Sequester
Carbon and Mitigate the Greenhouse Effect. CRC Press LLC. 1-457.

Pinjuv, G., 2011. Gigaton Analysis of the Livestock Industry: The Case for Adoption of a Moderate
Intensification Model. The Carbon War Room. 1-17.

Gurian-Sherman D., 2011. Raising the Steaks: Global Warming and Pasture-Raised Beef
Production in the United States. Union of Concerned Scientists. 1-56.

Yes, but the ONLY possible tool? Come on. That declaration right there reduces the strength of his argument.

 

[jem]

Quote from Ricter:

The beauty of this discussion is that it's way beyond "is there any warming", and beyond "is CO2 the cause", those are understood as givens.

for agw nutters... co2 is the cause has to be a given... because there is no science backing the idea that man made co2 is causing warming.


you could prove me wrong... by showing us the models which link CO2 to warming and how their predictions are doing.

 

[pspr]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Pisspoor, you should be embarrassed to have been taken in by the FF corporate disinformation campaign. The FF industry relies on ideological dolts like you.

I don't think the Fish Food Industry is pushing anything, idiot.

The only one making more ludicrous statements on global warming here than Ricter is yourself, numb nuts.

Learn how to read a chart.

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[jem]

Quote from pspr:

The only one making more ludicrous statements on global warming here than Ricter is yourself, numb nuts.

Learn how to read a chart.

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but CO2 is far higher than it was. How can we be cooling?
CO2 causes warming right? that is what 97% of the agw nutters from agw nutter monthly say.... right? Our failed agw nutter models predicted temps would go higher because CO2 was a forcing on temps.

right ricter...
its physics right?

CO2 goes up... temps go up.
Just like in our climate history.
Oh wait... that is the opposite of climate history as measured by the agw nutters and legit scientists.

Its only the nutters who actually argue CO2 forces temps.
Cause even in the UN 2007 model... in a footnote... they real scientists admitted it was too complicated to say CO2 causes temps to go up.

 

[futurecurrents]

It is of course beyond the intellectual capability of the agw denier morons to consider what happens when a dominant greenhouse gas goes up 35%, and what will continue to happen those gases increase. It's so simple.

It's truly amazing they don't get this simple concept. It's amazing how brainwashed by the corporate interest they have become. Incredible. It's like their brains have been excised of logic.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from jem:

but CO2 is far higher than it was. How can we be cooling?
CO2 causes warming right? that is what 97% of the agw nutters from agw nutter monthly say.... right? Our failed agw nutter models predicted temps would go higher because CO2 was a forcing on temps.

right ricter...
its physics right?

CO2 goes up... temps go up.
Just like in our climate history...

History is being made differently now, there is a new variable.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from jem:

but CO2 is far higher than it was. How can we be cooling?
CO2 causes warming right?

Maybe the CO2 is acting like freon.

 

[pspr]

Quote from futurecurrents:

It's so simple.

The only two things simple about climate change is that it's driven by the sun and that simple is the permanent state of your mind.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from pspr:

The only two things simple about climate change is that it's driven by the sun and that simple is the permanent state of your mind.

Very good. Now do you also know CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and historically and currently has worked as a positive feedback on planet temps. Please tell me you understand this simple concept that a retarded ten year old can understand. Forget for minute that you are an ignorant, ideologically blinded, right-wing asshole who, like too many of your kind, has been duped by the fossil fuel/corporate interests.