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A must watch video, Obama's radical tax plan...
- Thread starter Mvic
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Quote from gkishot:
Who said America has to make friends with every totalitarian regime in the world?
Do Germany and Japan have a sham government too?
Even if the government we would like to install in Iraq is not a sham, it is the logical assumption of the Iraqi people that it would be. To assume the US will do as it always has done is a sensible conclusion. Sham puppet democracy or not, it is not in the best interests of our national security to build a "democracy" in Iraq.
Quote from NY0BScalper:
Even if the government we would like to install in Iraq is not a sham, it is the logical assumption of the Iraqi people that it would be. To assume the US will do as it always has done is a sensible conclusion. Sham puppet democracy or not, it is not in the best interests of our national security to build a "democracy" in Iraq.
The freedom loving Iraqis who are eager to live prosperously embrace the new government wholeheartedly. What Iraqis are you speaking for?
Quote from NY0BScalper:
Where do you want me to begin?
I don't want you to begin anything, in fact I want you to end something. Stop the insanity!
Maybe for your own sake though, you should begin by making excuses for your own defeatist attitude. Sure you're in good company with the likes of Harry Reid, Pelosi and many others lib pols who have declared the war lost or the mission otherwise a failure or doomed to it, but as far as I can tell you're not on here pandering for approval from the move-on/code pink crowd or votes from some short-sighted brainwashed left constituency, so what gives?
This is not like a carton of instant Jell-O you just add water to and quickly get your jiggly jolly-looking fruit colored sugar fix. The trajectory has already been altered, the course changed. That cannot be denied and that itself is an acomplishment, but the road is long and bumpy and there is more to attain. Just BEING on that road and driving it without waver is a loud statement itself and achieves much that is not clearly tangible or quantifiable but in the end could mean the difference between sustaining our place in the world or losing it.
I hear people wish for a happy world where we don't do anything to anger the Muslims. What a wonderful world it would be. I wonder if they could even live one day without irritating some fellow citizen at a store, on a highway, or accross their white picket fence. I'd like to send them all to teach English in a Muslim country so they can experience what the British school-teacher in Sudan did after the naming of a teddy-bear.
Oh, and you said:
our past militaristic ventures which existed primarily for the benefits of American corporations
I don't even know how to respond to that as it just sounds to me like rage against the machine with no basis in truth. In fact, it sound very similar to an Obama speech. Go figure.
The non-thinkers always love raising taxes on the rich. Just watch any Democratic focus group on Youtube. You can see them rubbing their palms together with a crooked grin whenever Obama or Clinton mentions it. They get one-thousand times more fired up about this than they ever would about improving their own selves for the sake of having a higher earning capacity.
Besides seemingly having no plans or aspirations for themselves to get into those higher tax brackets that they want to increase rates on, what they just don't think about is that these increases, like any expense, is usually passed on down.... way down.
Right down to them.
Besides seemingly having no plans or aspirations for themselves to get into those higher tax brackets that they want to increase rates on, what they just don't think about is that these increases, like any expense, is usually passed on down.... way down.
Right down to them.
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I have lived in the arab middle east, and after 2 years, and extensive travel in the area, have a small inkling of their thinking process. It is unacceptable and narcisstic to think that the arabs woud accept a government imposed by the US.
The war in Iraq has bankrupted the US. More and more, foreign policy is being set by those who own the US debt.
Are you aware that the Arabs just might have suceeded by imposing financial terrorism...ie. the bankruptcy of the US.
Americans have no understanding of any country outside of their own. As a Canadian, we are constantly astounded as to how ignorant the Americans are of their closest neighbours. The world does not revolve around the US. I cannot believe the stupidity of those who believe that US military intervention is going to help in Iraq.
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I have lived in the arab middle east, and after 2 years, and extensive travel in the area, have a small inkling of their thinking process. It is unacceptable and narcisstic to think that the arabs woud accept a government imposed by the US.
The war in Iraq has bankrupted the US. More and more, foreign policy is being set by those who own the US debt.
Are you aware that the Arabs just might have suceeded by imposing financial terrorism...ie. the bankruptcy of the US.
Americans have no understanding of any country outside of their own. As a Canadian, we are constantly astounded as to how ignorant the Americans are of their closest neighbours. The world does not revolve around the US. I cannot believe the stupidity of those who believe that US military intervention is going to help in Iraq.
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Quote from sumosam:
The world does not revolve around the US.
We are indebted to you for pointing this out and showing us the follie of our thinking. On behalf of the country, I thank you. To think how arrogant we were!
I feel more humble already.
One can only imagine what pearls of wisdom you might attain on your next trip abroad!
Quote from sumosam:
I have lived in the arab middle east, and after 2 years, and extensive travel in the area, have a small inkling of their thinking process. It is unacceptable and narcisstic to think that the arabs woud accept a government imposed by the US.
The U.S. Government has not imposed a government on Iraq. The constitution and the government that is established in Iraq was voted on by the Iraqi people.
It would be accurate to say that we've guided them on this democratic process.
Quote from sumosam:
The war in Iraq has bankrupted the US.
U.S. is not bankrupted. Stop shrilling.