Quote from ElatedMaverick:
You peace-nicks and code-pinkers cry and whine to bring the troops home for what? To save money? Of all govt spendings this is one of the few that is vital and makes good sense. Why do our troops need to be home sitting on bases in the US? They are immensely more productive in securing the future of the nation by being right where they are-in a key part of the world that our enemies are salivating over taking control of and using against us as they used our airliners against us. Watch things fall apart and see our spending in blood and treasure be much greater in the long run if either Clinton or Obama win and keep their promises. .
Our war spending increases our risks of dying from terrorist attacks.
The problem is that we piss off the Arabs by taking Israel's side, and our interventionist foreign policy that has nothing to do with the security of American citizens and everything to do with maximizing corporate profits has over the years created so many international enemies because of
the US Gov's terorrist actions that if we said we would suddenly turn non-interventionist, no one would believe us and our enemies would still fear us.
When you go to a country like Iraq and shoot unarmed civilians and our soldiers have a "shit happens" mentality, that just creates an entire generation of radicals who will seek revenge.
The Iraq war is not winnable. We slipped up by going in there and we know it. We just showed our hand to the world and proved that we cannot take control of foreign countries, only nuke them.
The mentality that interventionism is the only way to survive in this world is the same type of mentality that the FED has in lowering rates as the mortgage scam reveals itself. Putting more cheap credit into the system, just because there is already so much cheap credit that dealing with the consequences will be painful, is not the way to solve a problem created by too much cheap credit. Similarly, continuing to be extremely aggressive with a massive offence budget and trying to police the world is not the way to solve a problem created by too much international interventionism. The more interventionism we have to enage in because of our past militaristic ventures which existed primarily for the benefits of American corporations, the more new enemies we will create, which will require more preemptive wars, which leads to only two possible endings. The US dominates the entire world and has the majority of it enslaved, or the US gets nuked. I don't like either of those scenarios.
The best way to lesson the hatred the rest of the world has against us for our past genocides, crimes, and terrorist activity (yes, some of the US hatred is also jealousy too) is to show that we are changing from our past and stop doing the things that are pissing the rest of the world off.
Shitting all over the Arabs by giving Israel our money and trying to instill a sham government in Iraq is hardly the answer to our national security.