A major question about this new gun control

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I'm trying not to pipe in here or I'll get the typical Pabst is a racist bs but here's the deal T-dog. Euro-whites don't shoot many people. IOW's the odds of a white guy in Chicago killing you are the same as a white guy in Toronto, London or Munich killing you. Does it happen? Sure. Does it happen systematically? Not by a long shot. (no pun intended)

So when white libs start talking about guns and rednecks and the NRA or whatever it makes you seem more than a bit out of touch.

Unfortunately black and Mexican teens who DO commit the most murders aren't usually buying guns at WMT or anywhere else. They steal firearms.
I was talking about guns. Period. Out of touch? Probably. Out of my mind? I hope not. Did you get a look at the video ratboy posted? Don't you just love the part where "...they just started firing at anybody and everybody."
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

I don't mean to sound like a spoil-sport, and I would certainly look to defend myself in the event of an upheaval. However, in a worst case scenario a ruthless dictator with access to the US's incredible military armory would probably just gut any area that even smelled of insurgency without a second thought. You would likely be indistinguishable from your gun in the rubble. It's not encouraging, but think it through. Realistically, our only chance is not to allow such a monster to get a hold of the reigns. Once he has them in hand together with the backing of the military, in all likelihood it's a fairly done deal.

I see your point and offense is key (thus the extreme importance of the 2nd amendment) but no matter how dire a situation may appear once you take a defeatist attitude you may as well dig your own grave.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Don't you just love the part where "...they just started firing at anybody and everybody."

Except that the reporter also said, realizing what they [the Korean Store owners] had started. A trained observer witnessing looting of a business blames the store owners. Classic Stuff.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from indahook:

I see your point and offense is key...
My turn to be the devil's advocate.

I don't know how these things work, but I'm guessing that if someone is devious enough, clever enough and connected enough to take over, he would not likely engage in the pleasantries of preannouncement. I would guess that the window of opportunity would be slim indeed. But, yeah, lying down would not be a very palatable alternative. We'd both probably die trying.

But that unpleasant scenario is far less likely than the ones that regularly play out on the streets every day.
 
I was in an office at Wilshire and Western when that flared. Eventhough its was illegal I was comforted to know that I had .40 cal under the seat for the ride home.

And I vividly remember the shots of the store owners in Koreatown standing on the roofs of their stores all strapped up guarding their stores from the looting and fires. LAPD...nowhere to be seen.


Quote from Thunderdog:

I remember the ordeal. However, I don't recall how many civilians had to defend themselves with their personal firearms.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:


I don't know how these things work, but I'm guessing that if someone is devious enough, clever enough and connected enough to take over, he will not likely engage in the pleasantries of preannouncement.

and we are right back to where we started all of this, at the Wal-Mart counter buyin' guns.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

and we are right back to where we started all of this, at the Wal-Mart counter buyin' guns.
Unfortunately, you'd probably be late to the party by then.
 
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

I was in an office at Wilshire and Western when that flared. Eventhough its was illegal I was comforted to know that I had .40 cal under the seat for the ride home.

And I vividly remember the shots of the store owners in Koreatown standing on the roofs of their stores all strapped up guarding their stores from the looting and fires. LAPD...nowhere to be seen.
That may be. But what I saw in that video was a number of people firing their guns repeatedly and indiscriminately. It didn't give me a warm feeling all over.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

.... There are way too many stupid people in this world. The notion of giving them the right to carry scares the bejeebers out of me. You just never know when a Jack-in-the-Box is going to pop.

Sounds like symptoms of an unreasonable, illogical phobia. Needless worry. I'm multiples more worried about trading than getting shot even when I venture into Detroit City.

You are more likely to die as an occupant of a specialized agricultural vehicle than in a shoot-out, Thunderdog.

You are much more likely to die of E. coli poisoning at Jack-in-the-Box, but you will reason that you have to eat, well, you don't have to eat at J-i-t-B.
 
Gunfire shouldn't give you a warm feeling. But as someone said earlier in the thread better to be armed than not.

Quote from Thunderdog:

That may be. But what I saw in that video was a number of people firing their guns repeatedly and indiscriminately. It didn't give me a warm feeling all over.
 
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