I said it's a structural issue, not difference. The issue is that woman in finance face some unique challenges that men don't face. Simple example - when a young woman starts as a trader, it's harder to develop a close relationship with her mentor without sending, erm, wrong signals. For the said senior trader, it could be hard to explain to his wife that he's grabbing a drink with his junior if said junior is a 21-year-old blond etc. For the said junior, it could be hard to suggest grabbing a drink cause it could be misinterpreted.
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LOL! This seems like the man's structural issue.I said it's a structural issue, not difference. The issue is that woman in finance face some unique challenges that men don't face. Simple example - when a young woman starts as a trader, it's harder to develop a close relationship with her mentor without sending, erm, wrong signals. For the said senior trader, it could be hard to explain to his wife that he's grabbing a drink with his junior if said junior is a 21-year-old blond etc.
What if her boss is a woman herself? Where is a structural issue there?
The probability of that is low, because there are so few women-traders to begin with, especially senior ones.LOL! What if her boss is a woman herself? Where is a structural issue there?
Well, no, because if eventually the junior trader never develops a personal relationship with her mentor, it's her career growth that's stunted.This seems like the man's structural issue.
So how the situation should be remedied exactly?The probability of that is low, because there are so few women-traders to begin with, especially senior ones.
Well, no, because if eventually the junior trader never develops a personal relationship with her mentor, it's her career growth that's stunted.
I don't know. I am merely pointing out the problem and never given it enough thought to figure out a global fix. When I used to have people reporting to me, a local fix for me personally was to make a conscious effort to treat female co-workers the same way I'd treat men. My experience was that throwing women into the mix leads to better risk management practices, so I felt it was important.So how the situation should be remedied exactly?
I don't know either. That's why your giving one example does not mean there is some 'structural issue'. What if this is the natural course of events.I don't know. I am merely pointing out the problem and never given it enough thought to figure out a global fix. When I used to have people reporting to me, a local fix for me personally was to make a conscious effort to treat female co-workers the same way I'd treat men.
While I definitely might be wrong, I have seen similar issues for number of female traders reporting to me or into adjacent groups. I have also heard enough anecdotal evidence from people across the street.I don't know either. That's why your giving one example does not mean there is some 'structural issue'. What if this is the natural course of events.
We are traders, so we look at the world, see statistically significant phenomena and make causal generalized conclusions. I felt it was important enough for me to understand the gender-imbalance situation and make adjustments, but I don't get paid for devising global solutions.
There is no "gender-imbalance" issue that requires global solutions. Even hiring women only wouldn't do it b/c it has no practical merits. There is no structural issue in existence of 2 genders. Next time just ask a complaining woman what she wants you to do?While I definitely might be wrong, I have seen similar issues for number of female traders reporting to me or into adjacent groups. I have also heard enough anecdotal evidence from people across the street.
We are traders, so we look at the world, see statistically significant phenomena and make causal generalized conclusions. I felt it was important enough for me to understand the gender-imbalance situation and make adjustments, but I don't get paid for devising global solutions.
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You're not an institutional trader/PM currently and I suspect never worked as one before. How would you know what is and what is not an issue for the finance industry, specifically for trading managers/PMs?There is no "gender-imbalance" issue that requires global solutions. Even hiring women only wouldn't do it b/c it has no practical merits. There is no structural issue in existence of 2 genders.