A list of all scam unregulated 3rd party educational vendors

Quote from stock777:

I don't know, the mere though of going realtime and proving the bs is not just talk seems to strike the fear of god into some folks.

Idiot - if you and Frits do not even know what a spread actually is in terms of position construction and contract sizing, if you cannot properly mark a spread in terms of P&L, if you do not know how to margin a spread correctly, and especially if you cannot chart a spread correctly - then why the fuck should you care ? This is a specialty that I teach to already experienced traders - guys banging out well into six figures (and a few seven figure honchos) for several years scalping Bunds, Crude, ES, Bonds, the Euro, for size.

You cannot put spreads into Collective2. Most backtesting programs will not accomodate spread positions. Most charting packages will not even chart a spread.

The fact of the matter is that you and the rest of the retail punters would not know what the fuck you were looking at. I do not take on clients like you and Frits. I cannot work with guys like you - I need experienced traders for clients. I have no interest in proving anything to you. This is not for you. I turn down guys like you every day. I do not run some sort of trading academy, not even close. I turn away way more guys than I ultimately accept. I don't need your money, and I certainly don't want to deal with you.
 
Quote from rdg:

What a rabbit hole. Without a background in finance, the interest rate stuff is like a foreign language.

(To add to the links for posterity, here's a note on calculating DV01 for calculating spot hedge ratios)
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/int...ulating_the_Dollar_Value_of_a_Basis_Point.pdf

From looking at the ICS report history, it seems the hedging ratios are super stable. Is that generally the case for the treasury spreads, or do they get more volatile?

Which parts of the treasury curve are most heavily watched and traded? 2/5/10? Is there a single 'benchmark' in that arena? And are the spreads actually quoted by cbot like the ag calendars? I can only get IB to show its 'smart' routing/local aggregation on inter-commodity stuff.

Thanks again.

This is a post from over in the Futures Spread Trading Thread here in the Educational Forums section - a reply regarding an earlier post from this ET Member ( and several others ) requesting from me some background information on the specialty that is spread trading and intermarket arbitrage. And it emphatically proves my point in the last post - that posting spread trade calls for the benefit of retail punters and biased pundits/bombthrowers not schooled in the art is a non-sensical and meaningless exercise.
 
Quote from emg:

Here are my list so far.

Puretick
TraderInternational
DayTradeToWin
eMiniDayTrader.com
nexgen
priceactionroom.com



Anybody out there to list all the scammers

this was posted in 2010,

has there been any updates?

because when you see someone claiming 459pips over a few days because of swing trading,

does one really give pause to the significant number of other patterns that occur during that duration of a hold?

patterns of selling, buying, frenzies, panic, etc? that are all valid tradeable conditions?

does anyone give valid pause to the significant stoploss or drawdown just to maintain those positions, or the significant gains that are lost over that holding period, and finally stopped out in the position?
 
Quote from emg:

Updated List

Rockwell trading
TraderInternational
DayTradeToWin
eMiniDayTrader.com
nexgen
priceactionroom.com
eminitradingcourse.com
blackjacktrader.com
Millenium-Traders
tradingonlinemadeeasy.com
easyeminitrade.com
vantagepointsoftwares.info
winborntraders.com
Mike Baghdady of Training Traders
http://www.3minutetrader.com/alerts/
http://www.2stocktrading.com/index.php
http://www.killingstocks.com/
bill duryea of ioamt.com
Rhythm of the Markets
Options Magic
TradQuest Systems
eminijunkie.com
Dave Wright "Wave Rider/Trend Catcher"
Bullseyetraders (Franz Shoar)
ShadowTraders (not the TDAmeritrade)
School of Trade SOT
http://www.james16group.us/
http://www.neweratrader.com/
ktrader.com Oliver Velez and Greg Capra, founders of Pristine.com and Mastertrader.com,iFundTrader.com
Woodies CCI Club
Larry Levin Secrets of Traders
ORDERFLOWANALYTICS.COM
the Pro Trading LLC Richard Regan
gorillagaps.com
3stepislandtrader.com
forex-trading-made-ez.com/
lmt-forex-formula.com/welcome.html
topdogtrading.com
tradingstarpro.com
robwessels.com
rs of houston
Timothy Sykes- Penny Stock Millionaire



thanks for your time and research and keeping this list current


thanks!

we've been duly warned

besides, those have to buy during the presentation / webinar glad handing offers, and guarantees, and refunds (that never happen) and the hundreds of persons on the presentation pressures

why even bother trying to make money from trading, since they're making money from trading (fools from one room to the other)
 
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b. hull, you have alot to swallow at the moment:

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"Traders" as you describe yourselves Frits, Stock 777, and b. hull is of course a theft from truth telling.

You, Frits, admit you have never made a dime trading and you want to scorch the earth because you "got ripped off" by Rockwell Trading or something to that effect. You followed their calls to the letter and in your words you have "not made dollar 1". Your words, not mine. You also proclaim in your blog that trading is a "hobby" for you.

b. hull tells us in his posts that he is an ex-exchange analyst who "has everything to learn". He opines extensively about the virtues of fundamental analysis and timing the markets as such; in fact, if you review most of his posts in detail he waxes poetic about his gloryhole love fantasy for "local".

Stock 777 / Abraham Lincoln, well, nothing can be said for that sad sack of shit.
 
Stock777 as seen at home, very sad.

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