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Quote from bone:

For all your 'humanity', you seem very at ease with yourself making unsolicited and unilateral value judgements about me - I have never met you and you certainly are not a client of mine.

No Doji PMs me from time to time, how is it that she knows what a spread trade is - and you apparently keep asking what is my specialty ?

when that question was raised in public, i was charitable enough to provide you an opportunity to explain yourself, your teaching and whatever you wish to sell.... to entice those who wish to learn to trade profitably, by your methodology, to have a chance at reading whatever your claims are....

and you seem to have missed it altogether, i felt so sorry for you.

anyway, now that you brought up madam nodoji.... DID YOU EVER FIND ANY OF MY RESPONSES TO HER.... THAT ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER--NONSENSICAL, as you so boldly stated and claimed here....? you couldn't, could you? why do you mislead and mislabel other whom you never met nor was ever your client, like myself?

it is also very strange that you yourself DO NOT THINK NOR CONSIDER that my response to you was anything sacrastic.... however your from time to time emailer, nodoji (friend/biz associate/partners?), as you so ardently claimed in your above statement....

but nodoji did think that i was being sacrastic.... very strange here, don't you think? particularly, that she would jump up to defend you, bone.... especially whence there was nothing for her to defend.... (i got to ask her next time when i chat with her as to why she felt the need to speak up for you and defend you to such an extend....?)

in sums and substances, my latest pm to nodoji was.... to just inform her that you, bone, are old enough to defend yourself, if and when, or if ever, there is anything for you to defend, surely you do not need a feminine gender to fend for you, isn't that right?

as an adult you surely can be responsible for yourself, your trading success claims, your trading school and whatever you claim to be or whatever you wish to be.... isn't that also true, bone?

so, my prior post appearing on elite trader, on subject 'bone' and/or 'your specialty' et al is hereby further confirmed to stand and to remain as is.... until trading evidence is provided by bone or others to prove to the contrary....; so sorry to have also disappointed you nodoji....

bone, you are an adult and also an operator of a so-called trading school, isn't that also correct?;

you surely can substantiate your own claims whatever you claim on your trading website, right?

it is up to you now, if you wish or care to respond further than--i do not know you from adams and you are not my client.... such a sheepish response is really no response at all in eyes of the traders and in the trading arena as we know it....

bone, you, really in all honesty, need not respond to anything at all, if you feel more comfortable.... to remain silence; for that is any trader's prerogative and guaranteed rights.... to remain silence.

whether you appreciate it or not, i am providing you another golden opportunity to peddle your SPECIALTIES or whatever, yourself, your unusual ability and whatever you wish to expound to the trading world about your uncanny trading edge and/or about your trading school.... and also if you desire to address, the 9,900.00 USD fees (?).... in return for.... ?

go right ahead, bone... i've made an introduction for you and your trading school already....

the floor is now yours.... with all due respects.... and may i pls guarantee that there is no malice whatever intended or implied here.... OK, bone? and much appreciation for your forthrightness and response, if you care to or have time to spare.... :cool:
 
bone....

STUPID ME....

SO VERY SILLY OF ME....

i failed to notice that you are also a paid sponsor of et here....

indeed, without your ad and others' paid sponsorships....

where would all those wishing to learn how to trade to make a decent living be....,

indeed.... such is another fact of life.... to consider....

Quote from nakachalet:

when that question was raised in public, i was charitable enough to provide you an opportunity to explain yourself, your teaching and whatever you wish to sell.... to entice those who wish to learn to trade profitably, by your methodology, to have a chance at reading whatever your claims are....

and you seem to have missed it altogether, i felt so sorry for you.

anyway, now that you brought up madam nodoji.... DID YOU EVER FIND ANY OF MY RESPONSES TO HER.... THAT ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER--NONSENSICAL, as you so boldly stated and claimed here....? you couldn't, could you? why do you mislead and mislabel other whom you never met nor was ever your client, like myself?

it is also very strange that you yourself DO NOT THINK NOR CONSIDER that my response to you was anything sacrastic.... however your from time to time emailer, nodoji (friend/biz associate/partners?), as you so ardently claimed in your above statement....

but nodoji did think that i was being sacrastic.... very strange here, don't you think? particularly, that she would jump up to defend you, bone.... especially whence there was nothing for her to defend.... (i got to ask her next time when i chat with her as to why she felt the need to speak up for you and defend you to such an extend....?)

in sums and substances, my latest pm to nodoji was.... to just inform her that you, bone, are old enough to defend yourself, if and when, or if ever, there is anything for you to defend, surely you do not need a feminine gender to fend for you, isn't that right?

as an adult you surely can be responsible for yourself, your trading success claims, your trading school and whatever you claim to be or whatever you wish to be.... isn't that also true, bone?

so, my prior post appearing on elite trader, on subject 'bone' and/or 'your specialty' et al is hereby further confirmed to stand and to remain as is.... until trading evidence is provided by bone or others to prove to the contrary....; so sorry to have also disappointed you nodoji....

bone, you are an adult and also an operator of a so-called trading school, isn't that also correct?;

you surely can substantiate your own claims whatever you claim on your trading website, right?

it is up to you now, if you wish or care to respond further than--i do not know you from adams and you are not my client.... such a sheepish response is really no response at all in eyes of the traders and in the trading arena as we know it....

bone, you, really in all honesty, need not respond to anything at all, if you feel more comfortable.... to remain silence; for that is any trader's prerogative and guaranteed rights.... to remain silence.

whether you appreciate it or not, i am providing you another golden opportunity to peddle your SPECIALTIES or whatever, yourself, your unusual ability and whatever you wish to expound to the trading world about your uncanny trading edge and/or about your trading school.... and also if you desire to address, the 9,900.00 USD fees (?).... in return for.... ?

go right ahead, bone... i've made an introduction for you and your trading school already....

the floor is now yours.... with all due respects.... and may i pls guarantee that there is no malice whatever intended or implied here.... OK, bone? and much appreciation for your forthrightness and response, if you care to or have time to spare.... :cool:
 
Quote from nakachalet:

bone....

STUPID ME....

SO VERY SILLY OF ME....

i failed to notice that you are also a paid sponsor of et here....

Thanks again for taking the opportunity to pass judgement on those you know nothing about. I have over 60 ET Members who are clients - please take the opportunity to do a search for any client complaints; there aren't any. In fact, my clients are my best reference.

It took you five posts to notice that I'm a sponsor, and you never caught on that my specialty is spread trading and relative value arbitrage - is your trading that non-sensical and impulsive ?
 
Quote from bone:

Thanks again for taking the opportunity to pass judgement on those you know nothing about. I have over 60 ET Members who are clients - please take the opportunity to do a search for any client complaints; there aren't any. In fact, my clients are my best reference.

It took you five posts to notice that I'm a sponsor, and you never caught on that my specialty is spread trading and relative value arbitrage - is your trading that non-sensical and impulsive ?

bone, you are again hiding behind whatever you are trying to hide.... lol

it is a complete waste of my time to give you opportunity upon opportunity to tell this community of traders....

just how good or how effective your trading methodology BY WHATEVER NAME YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL IT, OR BY WHATEVER CLAIMS YOU DESIRE TO BESTOWED UPON YOURSELF....

ok, many traders can understand that now that you become an owner of a trading school you have less time to trade to show any profitability for yourself.... how about the actual trading performance of your prized students numbered in excess of 60 in this very community, as you claimed.... ? would any of them be willing to show something or anything traded even as recent as last week on your behalf?

perhaps, at least a handful of them could be trading with extreme successes with shocking profitability to show everyone here, that is even better.... you would have many more students for sure, right?

in order to claim any degree of true successes in trading, we must deal with here and now.... not what have been accomplished last year or some years back.... and i am not pushing you too hard or anything like that at all.... on this point, isn't that right?

bone, i can assure you that there are other trading school teachers, such as jforest who clearly stated that he and his associates would not trade in the u.s. market because they are lacking in terms of qualification, certification and other credentials.... and that they do not wish to be incarcerated making a living against the laws....

bone, if you have any actual live trading result from last week, just show some of it to appease many of the doubling thomases around here.... in case you do not wish to show your very own trading profitability in order not to embarrass many of us traders who perhaps are not of your status here.... that would be very kind of you too indeed.... not to embarrass any of us.... and i thank you kindly.

if you decide not to show any live trading at all, that is also your prerogative as well, bone....

as an alternative, many of us would be glad to even see some of the live trading results from last week, from any one of your acclaimed students.... that would suffice too....: any one...?

i truly do have little attention span particularly for descriptive trading results of past performances.... just a pix of your trade or your students' trade would really be rewarding for many of us....

this would probably be my last salute to you, bone, for being able to run a trading school with such generous vision on one hand.... but at the same time, on the other hand.... lack specificity toward attainable trading profitability....

bone, honestly now, why waste money on your ad at et at all....

well, thank you very much everyone for your indulgences with my one sided dialogue with bone.... and also much appreciated your patient.... i shall hereby bid you all farewell from this rather worthless attempt to dialogue....

also wishing everyone an exciting weekend and also profitable trading during the up coming week. sincerely hope that many of you would be able to do even better in the coming volatile weeks than the last thursday performance in tf market, several pix were humbly attached herewith to encourage every trader [bold]NOT TO LISTEN TO OTHERS TOO MUCH at the expense of your own search for better setups to trade and that it is your own money that you are trading with....;[/bold] and that you can do it and many might even be able to accomplish much better results and also much more with your own setup and all....: that is also my humble hope for every trader.
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this would probably be my last salute to you, bone, for being able to run a trading school with such generous vision on one hand.... but at the same time, on the other hand.... lack specificity toward attainable trading profitability....

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Naka: why keep posting SIM trading windows ?

In terms of client performance reported to me YTD:

Reported client metrics YTD Jan through Jun 2011: 7.99 annualized Sharpe Ratio, average monthly return: 9.92%, average monthly max drawdown: 2.2 %

Any prospect that I screen in advance to be qualified is welcome to independently contact those clients reporting that performance.
 
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Quote from nakachalet:

this would probably be my last salute to you, bone, for being able to run a trading school with such generous vision on one hand.... but at the same time, on the other hand.... lack specificity toward attainable trading profitability....

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Naka: why keep posting SIM trading windows ?

In terms of client performance reported to me YTD:

Reported client metrics YTD Jan through Jun 2011: 7.99 annualized Sharpe Ratio, average monthly return: 9.92%, average monthly max drawdown: 2.2 %

Any prospect that I screen in advance to be qualified is welcome to independently contact those clients reporting that performance.

Reported average monthly returns of 9.92%. Yeah right! The hedge funds and some of the greatest traders on the planent would kill for those type of returns with real money. In the real world of real money compounding your capital at a annual rate of 25% puts you in the class of a Soros or a Buffett. But in the make believe world of Vendorville it is peanuts and easily achievable by every Tom, Dick and Harry. In fact, forget about compounding, the hedge fund and big money traders would kill for a 9.92% return YTD. I guess there IS a sucker born every minute in this game.
 
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I guess there IS a sucker born every minute in this game.

I have 3 CTA's and 2 HF's as clients. They must be idiots.
 
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Quote from SkepticTrader:

Reported average monthly returns of 9.92%. Yeah right! The hedge funds and some of the greatest traders on the planent would kill for those type of returns with real money. In the real world of real money compounding your capital at a annual rate of 25% puts you in the class of a Soros or a Buffett. But in the make believe world of Vendorville it is peanuts and easily achievable by every Tom, Dick and Harry. In fact, forget about compounding, the hedge fund and big money traders would kill for a 9.92% return YTD. I guess there IS a sucker born every minute in this game.

It really does show you know nothing about this industry. 10% per month has been a consistent quote with regard to what potential clients want.

Only recently did I complete some optimizations and put together a program that can do that. Bone probably has automated programs and groups of traders following his models. This is an expected return in the HF world, and, especially, managed futures.

I've heard drawdowns expected below 40%, so there's plenty of room for risk in futures to do this.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

It really does show you know nothing about this industry. 10% per month has been a consistent quote with regard to what potential clients want.

Only recently did I complete some optimizations and put together a program that can do that. Bone probably has automated programs and groups of traders following his models. This is an expected return in the HF world, and, especially, managed futures.

I've heard drawdowns expected below 40%, so there's plenty of room for risk in futures to do this.

10% per month?? What planet are you from?? Have you ever looked at the long term historical returns from the hedge funds, private money managers, mutual fund industry, etc.?
 
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