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Quote from nakachalet:

@jerryadler

greetings my trading friend.

on pix 3, you executed a magnificent 3 contracts trade. CONGRATS.

NEVERTHELESS, there are some details that you need to perhaps watch over your own shoulder, ok?

i really like your 3 contracts trade here indeed. congrats again.

BUT DO READ OVER THE OBSERVATIONS NOTED IN THE ATTACHED PIX THOUGH, which would propel you to the front of the class in due course and i have no doubt about that at all.

let me know what you think, K? or anyone else that study the attachment and would like to respond, you are welcome too, K?

cheers, traders.

ok... one of us is on full retard here, it's either me or you. So let's figure this out.

The man placed a short trade of three contracts that went -1.75 points against before moving in favor afterwards. Three things...

#1: a lot of ES traders including myself use a -2.00 point initial stop because that's -$100 per contract, which is insignificant while seeking +$250 to +$500 (or more) potential gains.

#2: you don't count the sum total ticks against just because he had multiple contracts, because the same three contracts that go ten handles = forty ticks in favor x 3 contracts (or whatever) is the other side of that equation

#3: the ES does not trade to x.80 levels... it trades .25 / .50 / .75 / .00

perhaps you have never traded the ES before and didn't realize that. but anyone who has ever sim-traded ES knows that much

===

Bottom line? Good trades. I commonly go -2pts / +8pts ES for routine, run-of-mill results. Only the pretenders and the clueless think scalping ES for ticks using miniscule stops is actually something that works.

Almost as ridiculous as paper-trade morons who pretend to target 1pt profit (!) trades in ES using much wider stops and martingale against in their pretend worlds between lunch orders :)
 
Quote from keeptradin':

Your condescending use of "K" instead of spelling out the word is getting a bit tiresome.

What do you have against Jerry and his method of trading, anyway??

He posted three winning trades, you have sufficiently bashed him and them...move on already.

Cheers!!

may i pls assure you, there is no animosity between jerry and myself nor among jerry, myself and every trader here and else where.

may i point it out to you that there are many different kinds of traders around. many just do not care about other traders, unless of course, those traders are their friends.

you should ask yourself why does a stranger to jerry pay so much attention to jerry selection of entry, exit points and other trading niceties?

on the other hand, there are numerous traders wannabe reading elite traders forum, correct? would you want any of them to get the wrong kind of info about placing orders and such?

most of the time, i just do not have the time to meddle with this sort of thing, but it was jerry's good fortune, at least i think so, that someone was willing to point out several things that could very well enhance what he already learned and knew. and with a few pointers here and there, he could become even more prolific in his trades and perhaps even became consistently profitable much sooner than later. best of all, he does not need to pay anything to anyone.

did you consider my suggestions to jerry on his 3rd pix to be inaccurate or misinformed in any way, pls?

truly, i have no ill feeling toward anyone. if you care, do read over my posts and see what conclusions would you walk away with, OKAY? <did i spell it correctly this time, pls?> cheers and warm regards to you, keeptradin'.
 
Quote from nakachalet:
Y'LL JUST REMEMBER, IF A TRADING PROGRAM IS MAKING MONEY, THE LEGITIMATE OWNER WON'T LET IT OUT OF HIS/HER SIGHT, much less allowing everyone to use it for trading....

Only the true pear-shaped losers still actually believe that "systems" (cough) can be saturated with users.

1,000 people could easily use the same "program" in ES and never know one another is even in the market. If you do not know exactly how and why that's an ironclad reality, pretty much says it all right there.
 
Quote from nakachalet:

you should ask yourself why does a stranger to jerry pay so much attention to jerry selection of entry, exit points and other trading niceties?

on the other hand, there are numerous traders wannabe reading elite traders forum, correct? would you want any of them to get the wrong kind of info about placing orders and such?

My deepest, most sincere apology to you, my trading buddy.

You came across as hostile and vindictive, and I did not realize that you were attempting to save the beginning trader from financial ruin by continuously berating a method that you have deemed to be "suicidal." Maybe it is the language barrier, as I see you reside in another country.

Please, carry on in your noble quest.
 
Quote from nakachalet:

@jerry

my trading friend, don't get ruffled up so easily.

it is one thing to say something or in your case trying to promote something or someone or some for-sale trading methodologies.... but if that is your bag, it is perfectly fine with me, K?

even with whatever methodologies you wish to sell or promote or use.... it is still a long way from becoming profitable with any measure of consistency....

if you are not able to understand my analyses of your posted pix, then it is altogether your loss.... and as i said you are your own master and you may wish to do and trade whatever pleases you.

however to come on in public and to promote something to entice novices is altogether something else again.... even if emg is sympathetic enough to pull....

the fact remains as my posted impromptu analyses explained--regardless whether you like it or not. sorry.

at any rate, i do wish you the best in trading though, irrespective of what you do or say, K?

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO TRADE PROFITABLY AND CONSISTENTLY:

to have the appropriate setups for the products you trade,

for the markets you are in and

for the daily volatility the market presents....

wishing you and every trader profitable trading. cheers.
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Once again, you're criticizing a trading methodology that you know absolutely nothing about. You don't know the criteria for entries and exits. You don't know the analytical technique used to execute a trade.

Frankly, I don't get it. If you're a successful trader, I am happy for you. But why bash others when you have no experience with a particular methodology? Have you signed up for the Junkie's course? Have you been in his room? I think you're blowing a lot of hot air.

The guy has daily videos of his trade setups. Go to his website and listen to them. If you think they're bogus, then tell us why. I'm telling you that his trade setups are legitimate within the context of the current market conditions which he takes into account.

My impression is that you're not a very sophisticated trader. Do you understand market profile, market delta, market footprint? Do you understand that a good trader has a library of setups for current market conditions, not one size fits all?

The Junkie has a good setup which is workable. He takes into account market conditions, analyzes fibs, looks at volume, highs, lows, etc. I don't think he needs your endorsement. But the arrogance of your responses suggests that bashing others gives you more satisfaction than your trading!
 
Quote from emg:

Are there any other reason why eminijunkie should be on the list. If there is no reason or good reason by tomorrow after the market closes, eminijunkies will be off the list.



Eminijunkies are now off the list, but that doesn't mean eminijunkies system works.

For those of u wondering why i posted the casino ad:



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I found eminijunkies promotional below is no difference than the ad above



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I believe, u can't promote "how to earn $300-$2400 cash daytrading every week" without showing live proof. that can consider a scam because the salesman is misleading.


Registered Mutual funds, Registered hedge funds, and Registered CTA promote their performance based on their live managed accounts. That is legit.


eminijunkies are off the list
 
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Quote from emg:

Eminijunkies are now off the list, but that doesn't mean eminijunkies system works.

For those of u wondering why i posted the casino ad:

I found eminijunkies promotional below is no difference than the ad above

I believe, u can't promote "how to earn $300-$2400 cash daytrading every week" without showing live proof. that can consider a scam because the salesman is misleading.

Registered Mutual funds, Registered hedge funds, and Registered CTA promote their performance based on their live managed accounts. That is legit.

eminijunkies are off the list

You are right, EMG, the ads look eerily similar. Reminds me of WizeTrade with their "Red and Green" system...remember them??

I like rooms that offer a free demo of their service, so you can actually see and hear them in action. Anyone who is unwilling to let you "try before you buy" obviously has no confidence in their product. Would you buy a car without taking a test drive??

I have been sitting in on the "Order Flow Edge" room lately, and find they seem to be upfront and no-nonsense in their approach to teaching and trading. They have an "open room" a couple of mornings a week, where they make calls and talk about their method.

Anyone else checked them out??
 
take a look at this one emg? I don't really know anything about it.
http://www.masterthegap.com/products/item12.cfm

I remember wizetrade. A friend kept saying she knew people who were doubling their accounts using it. I saw one of their "shows". I remember laughing when a phone caller called the show "hosts" asking why a trade goofed up here haha. What a scam that was. Maybe the real thing it got right was its cash-in on the big surge in demand of retail trading back then in 2007 before the housing collapse.
 
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