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Rockwell trading
TraderInternational
DayTradeToWin
eMiniDayTrader.com
nexgen
priceactionroom.com
eminitradingcourse.com
blackjacktrader.com
Millenium-Traders
tradingonlinemadeeasy.com
easyeminitrade.com
vantagepointsoftwares.info
winborntraders.com
Mike Baghdady of Training Traders
http://www.3minutetrader.com/alerts/
http://www.2stocktrading.com/index.php
http://www.killingstocks.com/
bill duryea of ioamt.com
Rhythm of the Markets
Options Magic
TradQuest Systems
eminijunkie.com
Dave Wright "Wave Rider/Trend Catcher"
Bullseyetraders (Franz Shoar)
ShadowTraders (not the TDAmeritrade)
School of Trade SOT
http://www.james16group.us/
http://www.neweratrader.com/
ktrader.com Oliver Velez and Greg Capra, founders of Pristine.com and Mastertrader.com,iFundTrader.com
Woodies CCI Club
Larry Levin Secrets of Traders
ORDERFLOWANALYTICS.COM
the Pro Trading LLC Richard Regan
gorillagaps.com
3stepislandtrader.com
forex-trading-made-ez.com/
lmt-forex-formula.com/welcome.html
topdogtrading.com
tradingstarpro.com
 
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Quote from nakachalet:

emg:

confound it....

i do not know much about other names being on your list, nor do i know exactly what they were trying to sell to dupe others....

but i do know something about woodies cci club up to and including prior to last few months when he starts charging a donation of some 100$ to join his new trading room called S and S room where he uses his own trading bar named after himself--woodiesbar.... and he also charges another 200$ for lease of his woodiesbar for personal usage, if any trader wishes to have personal woodiesbar for independent personal use....

all these are upfront and there is no other hidden cost that i am know of to date.... the dvd sale and the seminar are also up front....

now let's get to specific allegations and rumors by some et members as shown below:
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1--marxdhr--I have been reading numerous posts on the web indicating that trading with Woodies CCI system is a fraud and that the moderators in the rooms on his site acknowledge that they don't really make money with his methods. Many have said that Woodie himself does not make any money with it.

Does anyone know if the method works or whether it is a fraud? Do you know anyone who actually makes money with it?

MARXDHR--to answer your question on whether or not woodies cci work or whether it is a fraud and does anyone know who actually makes money with it....?

i just took a trade on gc using woodies cci plus some of my own perimeters on going short on gc.... pls do take a good look at the pix attached taken just a few minutes ago on 2011-07-19 tuesday, at around 03:20 pm on gc....

and pls do come back in and re-cast your vote.... if or whether it is profitable to use woodies cci.... ok?

marxdhr, i have no biz involvement at all with woodie, neither do i ever receive any commission nor compensation of any sort from woodies. there are also other traders using woodies cci plus some other home grown trading vehicles like myself to trade profitably.

emg, you really ought to leave woodies cci club out of the blacklisting. particularly, when woodies cci club which was free, once upon a time--is essentially no longer in existence.

woodie has a new chatroom called S and S trading room--trading his own brand of woodiesbar and it is no longer free. to listen in on the moderators, basic members are required to pay about 100$ per month for the use of the room and another about 200$ for subscribing to woodiesbar for personal use on members' own computers.

just thought other traders.... would benefit from what is fact and what is heresy.

for what it is worth, here is my trade using some dimension of woodiescci. thx for the time, your patient and your indulgence. happy and profitable trading everyone. cheers :) :) :)

 

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Quote from nakachalet:

emg:

now let's get to specific allegations and rumors by some et members as shown below:
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1--marxdhr--I have been reading numerous posts on the web indicating that trading with Woodies CCI system is a fraud and that the moderators in the rooms on his site acknowledge that they don't really make money with his methods. Many have said that Woodie himself does not make any money with it.

Does anyone know if the method works or whether it is a fraud? Do you know anyone who actually makes money with it?

MARXDHR--to answer your question on whether or not woodies cci work or whether it is a fraud and does anyone know who actually makes money with it....?

i just took a trade on gc using woodies cci plus some of my own perimeters on going short on gc.... pls do take a good look at the pix attached taken just a few minutes ago on 2011-07-19 tuesday, at around 03:20 pm on gc....

and pls do come back in and re-cast your vote.... if or whether it is profitable to use woodies cci.... ok?

marxdhr, i have no biz involvement at all with woodie, neither do i ever receive any commission nor compensation of any sort from woodies. there are also other traders using woodies cci plus some other home grown trading vehicles like myself to trade profitably.

emg, you really ought to leave woodies cci club out of the blacklisting. particularly, when woodies cci club which was free, once upon a time--is essentially no longer in existence.

woodie has a new chatroom called S and S trading room--trading his own brand of woodiesbar and it is no longer free. to listen in on the moderators, basic members are required to pay about 100$ per month for the use of the room and another about 200$ for subscribing to woodiesbar for personal use on members' own computers.

just thought other traders.... would benefit from what is fact and what is heresy.

for what it is worth, here is my trade using some dimension of woodiescci. thx for the time, your patient and your indulgence. happy and profitable trading everyone. cheers :) :) :)

 

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Quote from nakachalet:

Quote from nakachalet:

emg:

confound it....

i do not know much about other names being on your list, nor do i know exactly what they were trying to sell to dupe others....

but i do know something about woodies cci club up to and including prior to last few months when he starts charging a donation of some 100$ to join his new trading room called S and S room where he uses his own trading bar named after himself--woodiesbar.... and he also charges another 200$ for lease of his woodiesbar for personal usage, if any trader wishes to have personal woodiesbar for independent personal use....

all these are upfront and there is no other hidden cost that i am know of to date.... the dvd sale and the seminar are also up front....

now let's get to specific allegations and rumors by some et members as shown below:
------------------
1--marxdhr--I have been reading numerous posts on the web indicating that trading with Woodies CCI system is a fraud and that the moderators in the rooms on his site acknowledge that they don't really make money with his methods. Many have said that Woodie himself does not make any money with it.

Does anyone know if the method works or whether it is a fraud? Do you know anyone who actually makes money with it?

MARXDHR--to answer your question on whether or not woodies cci work or whether it is a fraud and does anyone know who actually makes money with it....?

i just took a trade on gc using woodies cci plus some of my own perimeters on going short on gc.... pls do take a good look at the pix attached taken just a few minutes ago on 2011-07-19 tuesday, at around 03:20 pm on gc....

and pls do come back in and re-cast your vote.... if or whether it is profitable to use woodies cci.... ok?

marxdhr, i have no biz involvement at all with woodie, neither do i ever receive any commission nor compensation of any sort from woodies. there are also other traders using woodies cci plus some other home grown trading vehicles like myself to trade profitably.

emg, you really ought to leave woodies cci club out of the blacklisting. particularly, when woodies cci club which was free, once upon a time--is essentially no longer in existence.

woodie has a new chatroom called S and S trading room--trading his own brand of woodiesbar and it is no longer free. to listen in on the moderators, basic members are required to pay about 100$ per month for the use of the room and another about 200$ for subscribing to woodiesbar for personal use on members' own computers.

just thought other traders.... would benefit from what is fact and what is heresy.

for what it is worth, here is my trade using some dimension of woodiescci. thx for the time, your patient and your indulgence. happy and profitable trading everyone. cheers :) :) :)



check this out

Quote from 1a2b3cppp:

Are we listing indicator vendors or just system gurus?

Add Woodie to the list regardless.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=172530
 
I've tried Woodies CCI. There is a free .pdf done by a fan club member telling you how to trade it. You can also find free indicators for MT4 and TOS has their own version of Woodies CCI. I also tried the "sidewinder" and other 0 100,200 colored line indicators. The patterns hardly panned out. "shamu", "famir" etc. The 14 CCI could change at any time without warning. What could be a shamu could easily change to a zero line reject. And what about Dr. Famir and the rumors he lost over a million trying to trade wcci? And then the news about what happened to him.. I bought the book and tried it for a while, but the winning trades were not any better than 50/50. And one of wcci's mottos: "We don't need no stinking price bars!"..
 
Quote from cloudy:

I've tried Woodies CCI. There is a free .pdf done by a fan club member telling you how to trade it. You can also find free indicators for MT4 and TOS has their own version of Woodies CCI. I also tried the "sidewinder" and other 0 100,200 colored line indicators. The patterns hardly panned out. "shamu", "famir" etc. The 14 CCI could change at any time without warning. What could be a shamu could easily change to a zero line reject. And what about Dr. Famir and the rumors he lost over a million trying to trade wcci? And then the news about what happened to him.. I bought the book and tried it for a while, but the winning trades were not any better than 50/50. And one of wcci's mottos: "We don't need no stinking price bars!"..

strange website
 
Quote from stock777:

nakachalet, why no moderator at wcci, have they all made their millions and moved on to other charitable work?

i have no biz involvement at all with woodie, neither do i ever receive any commission nor compensation of any sort from woodies. there are also other traders using woodies cci plus some other home grown trading vehicles like myself to trade profitably.

emg, you really ought to leave woodies cci club out of the blacklisting. particularly, when woodies cci club which was free, once upon a time--is essentially no longer in existence.

woodie has a new chatroom called S and S trading room--trading his own brand of woodiesbar and it is no longer free. to listen in on the moderators, basic members are required to pay about 100$ per month for the use of the room and another about 200$ for subscribing to woodiesbar for personal use on members' own computers, if one so wishes.
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NOT ALL MODERATORS are trading live, by the way. however there are many who do trade live and who are successful and profitable. they are not all male traders either, mind you.

there are at the very least two female traders who have been successful and profitable for a long time. just to prove that there actually are such outstanding female traders in the world (u.s. continent and my own limited exposure to other great female traders), namely; ms. ni---- and ms. ca-----, and then before them there were ms. su--- and others too....
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stock777--DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW, WHY SOME MOD LEFT....?

as we all know, successful traders of all age, status and gender, male or female regardless....;

do have their own temperaments, strengths and weaknesses and their SUPER EGO AND ULTRA SUPER EGO....

MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE.... these traders take pride in their trades.... and whatever they do--they do it with all their strengths and their mights....

EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, they believe in their individual rights and liberty.... they speak what they think is right regardless of the consequences....

stock777, i do not wish to be any more specific.... ok.

suffice it to say that those original contributors whose names were associated with different setups, such as gb100 et al are no longer present....

and you may draw your own educated conclusions as to various reasons independent successful traders move on....to do their own things and be even more independent. three cheers to everyone who put up with my 2 pennies worth of thoughts here.... thank you everyone and stock777. :)
 
well, what do you know....

for woodie has changed his mind again....

now price action chart is now not only acceptable to him....

but price chart is also prominently used and displayed in his new S and S chatroom.

but to become a member there is an about 100$ donation required of each member. and if you want to use his woodiesbar in the privacy of your own trading room, you need to subscribe and lease woodiesbar at the cost of about 200$ per month in addition to the chatroom membership of about 100$....

those great contributors' names associated with former woodiescci setups, such as the ones you mentioned.... are no longer used in woodiesbar....

associated with new woodiesbar are such setup names as, double dip, triple dip, flat-footed up/down et cetera....
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EMG, you really ought to take woodiescci club off the the blacklist.

IF YOU ARE UNWILLING TO DO THAT, then perhaps you could provide some neutrality in your dealing and judgement.... by doing the only viable alternative left which is....

PLS SUMMON ANY AND/OR ALL THOSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN CHEATED OR DEFRAUDED BY WOODIE OR WOODIESCCI CLUB.... to come forward to state their personal cases....

SHORT OF THAT, EMG, woodiescci club name should be removed from the blacklist altogether and immediately....

Quote from cloudy:

I've tried Woodies CCI. There is a free .pdf done by a fan club member telling you how to trade it. You can also find free indicators for MT4 and TOS has their own version of Woodies CCI. I also tried the "sidewinder" and other 0 100,200 colored line indicators. The patterns hardly panned out. "shamu", "famir" etc. The 14 CCI could change at any time without warning. What could be a shamu could easily change to a zero line reject. And what about Dr. Famir and the rumors he lost over a million trying to trade wcci? And then the news about what happened to him.. I bought the book and tried it for a while, but the winning trades were not any better than 50/50. And one of wcci's mottos: "We don't need no stinking price bars!"..
 
Quote from cloudy:

I've tried Woodies CCI. There is a free .pdf done by a fan club member telling you how to trade it. You can also find free indicators for MT4 and TOS has their own version of Woodies CCI. I also tried the "sidewinder" and other 0 100,200 colored line indicators. The patterns hardly panned out. "shamu", "famir" etc. The 14 CCI could change at any time without warning. What could be a shamu could easily change to a zero line reject. And what about Dr. Famir and the rumors he lost over a million trying to trade wcci? And then the news about what happened to him.. I bought the book and tried it for a while, but the winning trades were not any better than 50/50. And one of wcci's mottos: "We don't need no stinking price bars!"..

hi cloudy:

my responses to your questions would be set in upper case to distinguish them from your questions, for easier reading, ok?

BY THE WAY, WOODIES' CCI SETUPS AS YOU REFERRED TO, ARE NO LONGER USED BY WOODIE. HE IS USING WOODIESBAR NOW IN HIS BRAND NEW--S AND S CHATROOM WHERE MEMBERSHIP AND FEE ARE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF JOINING, ONLY ABOUT 100 USD DONATION PER MONTH.

NEVERTHELESS, I SHALL ATTEMPT TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE NO LONGER USED WOODIES SETUPS....
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1--I also tried the "sidewinder" and other 0 100,200 colored line indicators. The 14 CCI could change at any time without warning. What could be a shamu could easily change to a zero line reject.

YOUR OBSERVATION IS CORRECT. THE INDICATORS WERE SENSITIVE AND RESPONDED QUICKLY TO MARKET CHANGING CONDITIONS.

2--I bought the book and tried it for a while, but the winning trades were not any better than 50/50.

MOST PEOPLE JUST LEARNING HOW TO TRADE ARE MOST OFTEN MISGUIDED BY SOME WELL-INTENDED OR ILL-INTENDED INDIVIDUALS WHO CLAIMED TO BE ACTIVE AND PROFITABLE TRADERS....

MANY PEOPLE JUST LEARNING HOW TO TRADE ARE UNDER THE ERRONEOUS AND MISGUIDED NOTION THAT IN ORDER TO BE PROFITABLE, TRADERS MUST HAVE A WINNING RATE OF GRATER THAN 60%, 70% OR HIGHER.... IN ORDER TO BE WINNING AND PROFITING....

I AM NOT IMPLYING THAT YOU ARE OR THAT YOU ARE NOT A PROFITABLE PROFESSIONAL TRADER OK? AND FOR THE RECORD, WE DO NOT KNOW EACH OTHER UNTIL TODAY.... RIGHT?

FOR MYSELF, I'LL BE DELIGHTED TO TRADE AT 50/50 OPPORTUNITY AS YOU SO QUICKLY BRUSH ASIDE AS UNDESIRABLE AND THEREFORE PERHAPS.... UNPROFITABLE....

OF COURSE, IN TERMS OF REALITY, MOST PROFITABLE TRADERS' ENTRY POINT TO BUY OR TO SELL AT A PREDETERMINED SETUP.... ALREADY ENCOMPASSES A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF 50/50.... THE BASIC REASON BEING THAT THOSE PRESELECTED AND PREDETERMINED SETUPS HAVE ALREADY UNDERGONE SOME EXTENSIVE RESEARCHED AND TESTING.... BEFORE THOSE SETUPS ARE USED IN LIVE TRADING.... SEE MY POINT, MY FRIEND?

THEREFORE THOSE PARTICULAR SETUPS ARE PROVIDING THOSE TRADERS/OWNERS WITH AN UNFAIR EDGE AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER THOSE OF US WHO ARE JUST IFFY AND WISHY.... lol WE DO AGREE ON THIS POINT, DON'T WE....?

HOW THEN DO MOST ESTABLISHED TRADERS BRING HOME THE BACON.... TRADING AT 50/50 CHANCE, OR EVEN LESS....??????

IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO BECOMING POTENTIALLY PROFITABLE TRADERS.... IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER YET, THAT IS OK TOO.... YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO FIND THAT OUT.... :cool: BEFORE YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO PROFITABILITY....

OR IF YOU ARE A RATHER LAID BACK AND A RELAXED TRADER.... DREAMING OF BECOMING WEALTHY AND RICH BEYOND YOUR OWN RECOGNITION.... (lol) YOU CAN PM ME TOO FOR A QUICKY ANSWER.... BUT THEN YOU ARE SUBJECTING YOURSELF TO MY WHIMSICALITY.... lol

NO, I WON'T CHARGE YOU ANYTHING, IT WILL BE GIVING OUT TO YOU FREELY WITHOUT ANY STRING ATTACHED WHATEVER.... k?

AND FOR THOSE INSTANT CRITICS SUSPECTING DEVIOUS FOUL PLAY OR FRAUD OF ANY AND ALL SORTS.... PLS DO RELAX.... MY HUMBLE SELF HAS BEEN USING THAT THING IN EACH OF MY TRADE AND BEEN USING IT EFFECTIVELY AND PROFITABLY FOR A LONG LONG TIME.... ALREADY... lol

IT IS PERFECTLY SAFE FOR YOUR HEALTH AND PARTICULARLY GOOD FOR YOUR ULTIMATE TRADING WEALTH.... AS WELL....; IF YOU APPLY IT CONSISTENTLY AND FAITHFULLY AND TIMELY.... lol
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3--And one of wcci's mottos: "We don't need no stinking price bars!"

WOODIE HAS CHANGED HIS MIND NOW, HE IS SHOWING MODIFIED PRICE ACTION CHART DOMINANTLY ON HIS LATEST WOODIESBAR TRADING CHART.... YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF BUT YOU NEED TO PAY ABOUT 100 USD FIRST BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED THAT PRIVILEGE.... :cool:
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thx much everyone for suffering with me reading thru this post and trying to understand just what this heck is getting at.... and getting us into....;

thx much for your time.... wishing everyone happy and profitable trading.... three cheers :) :) :)
 
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