A list of all non-scam 3rd party vendors

[pattern39]

Quote from bone:

Skeptic, I am more than willing to compare my trading metrics to yours. Fo reals, playa.

soo.... Bone, how much exactly do you charge for your webinars?

 

[bone]

Quote from pattern39:

soo.... Bone, how much exactly do you charge for your webinars?

Not a webinar. I work with each client on an individual basis.

And since you cannot use a link or provide your bonafides in confidence, DENIED.

 

[baggerlord]

Quote from zdreg:

it shouldn't but it never ceases to amaze me that people never check for existing well developed threads. is it wahorl's 15minutes of fame syndrome or is it a lack of ability to do a search.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=212110&highlight=3rd+party+vendors

probably someone will argue that these threads are supplementary to each other.

That thread is nothing but a bunch of dummies bashing every vendor known to the internet, with hardly any firsthand experience.. Your reading comprehension could use a little fine tuning. And yes, the fame is nice.

Lol.

 

[craigaudio]

Bones has asked me to provide some feedback on his system within this forum.


I am a client of his and would like to confirm he is the real deal. Being an independent trader who straight position trades the ES, looking at multiple instruments and spreading has been a totally new and undiscovered area of trading for me. Bones has show great expertise and above all patience in teaching me his method. I have been testing his strategy over the last few months and have been pleased with its performance.


His consultancy is tailored to the individual’s needs. Together we have looked at how I can supplement my own trading by swing trading spreads over larger timeframes so that it does not interfere with the focus I have on the ES during the trading day. We have considered my risk capital and the amount of risk/volatility my account can handle and have chosen the appropriate markets to suit this.


Having jumped enthusiastically into trading the markets before and been burnt severely, I have been taking my progress with the spreads in a very prudent manner ensuring that I fully understand the system and its implementation before risking capital. I am still paper trading but I am looking to open an account over the next few months.


Overall I am very pleased with the service to date and can only recommend his services.


Best Wishes,
Craig

 

[baggerlord]

I'm reading Al Brooks price action book right now and it is horribly written but has some really really good content. It even discusses a concept I learned from AustinP that I hadn't seen anywhere else. I even tried googling it and no one seems to use it.

Really good book, would highly recommend if you don't mind slogging through the poor writing.

 

[emg]

Quote from baggerlord:

That thread is nothing but a bunch of dummies bashing every vendor known to the internet, with hardly any firsthand experience.. Your reading comprehension could use a little fine tuning. And yes, the fame is nice.

Lol.

u sound like austinp

 

[davidcohenphd]

Quote from bone:

Quote from davidcohenphd:

The best advice I can give anyone on this forum or many others of this kind is not to base your opinion about any vendor on what you hear about him from the unknown third parties.

Better yet, why not speak with the educator's clients on an independent and personal basis. Ask questions regarding the performance and value of the educator. Ask questions about the client in terms of his background. Make an informed decision about whether the educator has a system that has a high probability of ultimately working out for you. Does the educator take any warm-blooded prospect with a pulse and the fee, or are there certain requirements that the vendor has in terms of a client with particular pre-existing skill sets required to make the strategy work ?

References are of somewhat limited value. I don't know these people, never met them, and never probably will. I can trust people I know well and respect, and that includes mainly my friends and family.

My point is that you cannot trust those you meet on the Internet unless you somehow got to know them well. And even then, I would not put as much trust in what they say as I would in my friends' advice. Those you meet on the Internet trading forum can be trusted even less than anybody else you meet on the Internet.

The same applies to vendors who hang out on trading forums. They are there for a reason, to sell you something and if someone on the same forum is shilling for them, to me that's a negative sign: being a contrarian thinker, I am forced to investigate vendors like that even more thoroughly than others.

Don't get me wrong, I am not into vendors bashing. In fact, not long ago I was kicked out of the Big Mike forum for doing just the opposite: objecting to the incessant vendor bashing that's going on his forum.

The forum was created by a loser, by his own admission, who had blown 2 accounts, "like most day traders" (his words). Well, I beg to differ. Most day traders don't blow 2 accounts, but all idiots do. This guy is now trading his third account or, at least, that's what he wants you to believe. In reality, I suspect that he makes all his money from the forum and his vendor business.

Yes, he is a vendor too. He makes money from his elite membership which provides extra trading information, and that means he charges for what vendors routinely do too, except that he calls the elite membership fees "donations." He cannot honestly admit that these are fees; so much about his vendor integrity. He also does not disclose his identity, despite accepting money from people. Highly unprofessional. Who is he really hiding from? IRS or FBI?

Big Mike, being a vendor, encourages bashing his competition which is done by other vendors hanging out on his forum, sometimes also hiding their vendor status, and by his followers who can most charitably be described as "dipshits." The most vile of the vendors who engages in smearing his competition on the Big Mike forum is a sociopath with a handle "Fat Tails," who is peddling some genius stuff he plagiarized from the work of yet another vendor. Of course, he does not disclose that he is a vendor.

Why am I talking about it at length? Because with Big Mikes and Fat Tails of this world and their shills and deranged, dimwitted followers you simply cannot trust anything what's being posted on the trading forums these days when it comes to vendors. You simply have to ignore it, at least most of the time, and all the time when it comes to the Big Mike forum. Whether it's good or bad.

 

[davidcohenphd]

Quote from baggerlord:

That thread is nothing but a bunch of dummies bashing every vendor known to the internet, with hardly any firsthand experience.. Your reading comprehension could use a little fine tuning. And yes, the fame is nice.

Lol.

I am afraid you are dismissing these people too glibly. These people are often very right. I am not into vendor bashing, but I believe those who are skeptical of vendors have a place here as much as those who are "enthusiastic" about them. Otherwise, there is no balance. I think ET has a fairly good balance between shills and bashers, which is good and healthy.

 

[bone]

Quote from davidcohenphd:

Why am I talking about it at length? Because with Big Mikes and Fat Tails of this world and their shills and deranged, dimwitted followers you simply cannot trust anything what's being posted on the trading forums these days when it comes to vendors. You simply have to ignore it, at least most of the time, and all the time when it comes to the Big Mike forum. Whether it's good or bad.

Why are you quoting me ? I have absolutely no relationship to anyone you describe in your posts, I have no relationships or memberships in any of the internet forums you describe, you know nothing about me, and you have never spoken to any of my clients.

Creepy, dude. Really.

 

[bone]

Quote from davidcohenphd:

Don't get me wrong, I am not into vendors bashing.

Dude, you have exactly three posts total on your ET membership. And they are all here.

Look at your post history. Apparently, you do not care to discuss trading.

99% of my posts are out in the trading threads talking about trading - specifically, spread trading. See for yourself.

And I do not recall ever exchanging CV's or professional references with you, so please direct your unilateral judgements elsewhere.