A list of all non-scam 3rd party vendors

[eudaemon]

Just for the record: I've got nothing against Bone, and do not know anything good or bad about his trading. We only had a very funny head bump into each other last friday.

 

[bone]

Quote from eudaemon:

Just for the record: I've got nothing against Bone, and do not know anything good or bad about his trading. We only had a very funny head bump into each other last friday.

Ditto, thanks for the joust ! Well done and take care.

 

[bone]

Triple Nickel is a client who went live on March 01, 2011 and has returned 45% on his initial account balance to date. Any serious prospect whom I screen in advance regarding trading skillsets is welcome to contact him and other clients privately and independently. Ask them whatever you want.

 

[eudaemon]

Quote from bone:

Triple Nickel is a client who went live on March 01, 2011 and has returned 45% on his initial account balance to date. Any serious prospect whom I screen in advance regarding trading skillsets is welcome to contact him and other clients privately and independently. Ask them whatever you want.

May I ask the approximate size ( let's assume ES ) moved during that outstanding quarter?.

Were those quarterly returns an outlier or are they relatively consistent performance across several accounts/clients/etc?.

 

[bone]

Quote from eudaemon:

May I ask the approximate size ( let's assume ES ) moved during that outstanding quarter?.

One lot futures spreads. For example, one of the positions taken was short Dec 11 Eurodollars and long Dec 12 Eurodollars as a calendar spread position.

That particular client (triplenickel) went live on March 01, 2011 with a $25K account. He has returned 45% net on that as of yesterday.

In four months, on a net basis, he has over $36K in his account. Advantage Futures clearing, CTS front end, eSignal running my models, those expenses deducted from the account. Non-Member rates.

Swing trading futures spreads.

Max drawdown ridiculously modest.

Overnight SPAN performance bond margin credits of 65 % to 90 %.

I have another client who went live on April 01, 2011.

Same scenario, returned 10% net all expenses as of Friday June 24.

And that includes an impulsive scalping debacle which earned my wrath because he deviated from his trading plan.

Swing trading futures spreads.

Of course, I have 60 clients who keep trading their 'bread and butter' core trades and swing trade my spread model for an additional revenue stream. And they were really good before they hired me.

Any serious prospect whom I screen in advance regarding trading skillsets is welcome to contact him and other clients privately and independently. Ask them whatever you want.

 

[SkepticTrader]

Quote from davidcohenphd:

The best advice I can give anyone on this forum or many others of this kind is not to base your opinion about any vendor on what you hear about him from the unknown third parties. Whether the opinion is positive or not.

The best vendors (mentors) you will ever find don't hang out on trading forums being too busy trading and helping their clients. It's the marketers that do. And they often come with an entourage of shills.

Yes. I too have met a handful of good guys out there whom I could honestly recommend, but frankly why exactly would you give a damn about it? You don't know me from Adam.

Just my 2 cents.

Some of the better advice I have seen here, especially the part about the entourage of shills. In the end all that really counts are actual *multi-year* real money trading statements and that is something the Dream Merchants and their shills are never able to produce.

 

[zdreg]

it shouldn't but it never ceases to amaze me that people never check for existing well developed threads. is it wahorl's 15minutes of fame syndrome or is it a lack of ability to do a search.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=212110&highlight=3rd+party+vendors

probably someone will argue that these threads are supplementary to each other.

 

[bone]

Quote from SkepticTrader:

Some of the better advice I have seen here, especially the part about the entourage of shills.

Exactly. I agree 100 %, due diligence is mandatory. And that is a two-way street - I interview prospects and if you are a newbie forget about it.

 

[bone]

Skeptic, I am more than willing to compare my trading metrics to yours. Fo reals, playa.

 

[bone]

Quote from SkepticTrader:

shills are never able to produce.

Please identify said 'shill', and please name your recompense when proven otherwise - this is a trading forum, and risk is a given.

Let us fly into Orlando - myself, 'shills', yourself, complete with trading statements. Let Baron decide. Let Baron call FCMs to confirm account statement.

In terms of risk, I would say at a minumum, $25K cash.