A Lack Of Rigor Leaves Students 'Adrift' In College : NPR

the1 · Feb 18, 2011

I used to think that way but being a lot older and much wiser I now look back at classes like Humanities, Philosophy, and Religion as some of the most important classes I've ever taken. Wanna know why? Because they have a tendency to make you think. Nowadays I go out of my way to try and understand what Human Nature is really all about. I was just too young to want this kind of knowledge back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nature

Trust me. When you get older and come closer to realizing your mortality (possible immortality) you're gonna look back on these topics with a closer eye. 2:22

http://www.religiousbook.net/Books/Online_books/Bg/gita_2.html

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Well being in college currently myself i think the main issue is not motivation but the fact they make you take roughly 100/120 credit hours of classes you just dont care about.

Scataphagos · Feb 18, 2011

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I used to think that way but being a lot older and much wiser I now look back at classes like Humanities, Philosophy, and Religion as some of the most important classes I've ever taken. Wanna know why? Because they have a tendency to make you think. Nowadays I go out of my way to try and understand what Human Nature is really all about. I was just too young to want this kind of knowledge back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nature

Trust me. When you get older and come closer to realizing your mortality (possible immortality) you're gonna look back on these topics with a closer eye. 2:22

http://www.religiousbook.net/Books/Online_books/Bg/gita_2.html

Different strokes for different folks. I didn't take any of that (let me call it) Crap. 3-years of "nothin' but science" + English... that was PERFECT for me. And... I never had to write a term paper!!

Scataphagos · Feb 18, 2011

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'...The new Scam U's taking huge taxpayer guaranteed student loan leaving too many students with huge debt that they cannot repay.

More "spread the wealth", ... which Odumbo endorses... even when it's wasteful and abusive. :mad:

the1 · Feb 18, 2011

I had to write loads of term papers -- on a friggin TYPE WRITER and I actually had to get off my ass and get into the library and do real research and read books LOL. One of my college buddies told me to take Music Appreciation as a Fine Arts Elective. I laughed at him. I'm not laughing now. Here's a voice that can bring a grown man to tears.

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Different strokes for different folks. I didn't take any of that (let me call it) Crap. 3-years of "nothin' but science" + English... that was PERFECT for me. And... I never had to write a term paper!!

Scataphagos · Feb 18, 2011

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I had to write loads of term papers -- on a friggin TYPE WRITER and I actually had to get off my ass and get into the library and do real research and read books LOL. One of my college buddies told me to take Music Appreciation as a Fine Arts Elective. I laughed at him. I'm not laughing now. Here's a voice that can bring a grown man to tears.

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Beautiful as she and her voice are, doesn't justify music as a vocation for most collegians. Besides, you don't have to spend the money to "take music" to appreciate it.

If all you get from college is an appreciation for art and music.. to be able to name a few authors and the ability to weave a basket.. then you ain't worth "two dead flies", as my gigolo friend would put it.

To be "employable" after college, you need to have relatively specialized skills in an economically viable area, be able to think logically to solve problems, and be able to communicate well with others. If you didn't get that from your college experience, you basically wasted your, or parents, or taxpayer's money.

the1 · Feb 18, 2011

Couldn't agree more. Add courses in Stats, Finance, Accounting, Vector Calculus, Stochastic Calculus, Biology, Law, Medicine, whatever...with a Philosophy Course in Critical Thinking and I'll show you a very successful person. It don't hurt to do some heavy thinking listening to a killer voice either. Now here's a tune you can't help but appreciate

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To be "employable" after college, you need to have relatively specialized skills in an economically viable area, be able to think logically to solve problems, and be able to communicate well with others. If you didn't get that from your college experience, you basically wasted your, or parents, or taxpayer's money.

Scataphagos · Feb 18, 2011

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Couldn't agree more. Add courses in Stats, Finance, Accounting, Vector Calculus, Stochastic Calculus, Biology, Law, Medicine, whatever...with a Philosophy Course in Critical Thinking and I'll show you a very successful person. It don't hurt to do some heavy thinking listening to a killer voice either. Now here's a tune you can't help but appreciate

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Ahhh.. Led Zeppelin, my fav... along with Alan Parsons Project... ("Ramble On", my favorite Zeppelin single)

the1 · Feb 18, 2011

Say no more!

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Ahhh.. Led Zeppelin, my fav... along with Alan Parsons Project... ("Ramble On", my favorite Zeppelin single)

Scataphagos · Feb 18, 2011

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Say no more!

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Perfect intro to "Eye in the Sky".

Side note... my wife, while an ortho resident at Chappel Hill, once treated Michael Jordan for a sprain...

the1 · Feb 18, 2011

Even today I can still hear Marv Albert saying, "A spectacular move" to the shot at 1:49.

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Perfect intro to "Eye in the Sky".

Side note... my wife, while an ortho resident at Chappel Hill, once treated Michael Jordan for a sprain...