Here is the kind of shit Conover peddles
http://www.carbonated.tv/news/forbe...-printing-idiotic-analysis-of-obamacare-costs
http://www.carbonated.tv/news/forbe...-printing-idiotic-analysis-of-obamacare-costs
A baby is condemned to death by socialized medicine
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And yet... you can't dispute his facts and figures that are researched in complete detail.
And yet you don't even seem to mention that he supports single payer as a better alternative for universal care. It must grind on you having a "paid stooge of the American Enterprise Institute which is funded by big insurance and pharma companies" supporting single payer in any manner. The pain in your skull must be bad if you can't even seem to bring this to forefront while trying to invalidate his detailed research simply because of his associations. I guess liberal Duke University needs to fire him if he is such a conservative crony.
First, you were supposed to dispute the facts that I provided - there is nothing in your link that disputes my analysis.
Second, I provided a link that makes a mockery of what your author published, he has literally no idea what he is talking about. He is a paid mouthpiece of corporations and nothing more.
I don't care what he supports, if his analysis is shit and if he is taking money from big corporations to peddle nonsense then I will call him out for it. Unlike you, I don't get anchored just because some paid hack is supporting or pretending to support leftist causes.
Conover states in this Forbes article that Obamacare will increase health spending by $7,450 for a typical family of four. Under Obamacare my medical spending has gone up significantly more than $7,450 for my family. This includes higher co-pays, higher drug-co-payments, and increased monthly premium bills -- all for less coverage. This is also true for all my neighbors with medical plans from companies since Obamacare started. Every year my company sends out a notice that our costs have gone up and explicitly states it is due to ACA.
Except his methodology is shit as the article mentions and there is no way to verify your personal anecdote. There are plenty of people whose bills have gone down, all depends on the kind of insurance you had prior to ACA (could be junk) and your level of income. Also, Trumpcare fixes none of the cost factor, your premiums gonna rise even more under it.
I live in a community of middle class people who work in RTP generally. All of our medical costs have gone up greatly due to ACA.
Maybe if I was getting nearly free medical coverage from ACA due to the government pitching in to pay my monthly medical bill (or most of it) because I was "low income" then I would have a different perspective of ACA.
However for my family and my neighbors - Obamacare has been a real screw up the ass.
And keep in mind - there are plenty of things I don't like about the proposed Republican healthcare legislation as well.
Medical and insurance costs have been going up for decades now way beyond the rate of inflation and many in the middle class were paying for shit insurance which they only found out was shit AFTER they got sick.
Most of the folks in the RTP area have had for decades good insurance through their employers. Yes, the cost went up greater than the rate of inflation before Obamacare. However only after Obamacare have we seen the costs escalate at 35% plus each year, have co-pays raised, and our plans go from 100% plans down to being 80/20 or 70/30 plans. Our employers say this is directly attributable to ACA.
"These increased costs for employers and employees alike may seem steep—up around 50% over the past eight years—but they could have risen far higher had the Affordable Care Act never passed. The Kaiser study shows that average family premiums rose 20% from 2011 to 2016. That rate of increase is actually much lower than the previous five years (up 31% from 2006 to 2011) and the five years before that (up 63% from 2001 to 2006)."
http://time.com/money/4503325/obama-health-care-costs-obamacare/
The usual increase was 31%, you are saying it has increased 35% for you while the average being 20% for most people.