“Ayn Rand and Jesus”

Is Ayn Rand and-Jesus at odds with each other at its core?

  • Yes. We must either choose morals or economic well being.

    Votes: 13 22.0%
  • No. It just takes hierarchical modes of thinking to unify our entire belief systems.

    Votes: 25 42.4%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 4 6.8%
  • I don't care.

    Votes: 17 28.8%

  • Total voters
    59
Apparently this situation is undesirable.
The solution will probably be to confiscate the (wealth ) of those undeserving geasers because they should not profit from life experiences.
Therefore the gummt should distribute the monies confiscated from the old folks to the immature young since the are much more able to manage it.
Of course after taking their usual obscene administrative cut.
Cancel Social Security and medicare. That should level the playing field.
National wealth doesn't seem to follow this same progression.
I wonder why?
 
Quote from IanMacQuaide:

There is no "lack of compassion" in bettering oneself. The better I do for me, the better I do for my family and friends, which makes the world a better place.

Is this perhaps a statement of the essence of "trickle down economics"?
 
Quote from IanMacQuaide:
There is no "lack of compassion" in bettering oneself. The better I do for me, the better I do for my family and friends, which makes the world a better place. Can you become poor enough to make a poor man wealthy, in mind, body, or spirit.??
It depends on what you mean by "bettering oneself." One could become more emotionally aware and sensitive and better oneself in other related spiritual type ways but that is not how you mean it right? The world doesn't become a better place because of making things or consuming things or just doing that cycle for the sake of it because the cycle itself is what makes the world a better place. No, that doesn't make sense in a spiritual way at all. "Better" means something different to a spiritual person, a high EQ high compassion person, to the average person, and to non-empathetic people.

In some senses, what the above is saying is "buying stuff makes people happy". Consider a survey of depressed people, they don't want gifts or stuff, we know that isn't the solution, it doesn't always make the world a better place. It has it's place in the world, yes of course, but some may think it's not in the right place. ;)

If everyone is equally rich or wealthy isn't then everyone equally poor as well? If everyone has more than what they need, an abundance of everything they voluntarily want and a few people have a bit extra and a few people don't ... is everyone equally rich emotionally speaking? Sure there may be differences in what one chooses to spend wealth/time on, but each person has similar access to wealth and time to live as they please. Is anyone looking around and wanting what someone else has in that case or any reason for anti-depressants, etc?

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Quote from MarketMasher:
By modern terms, Jesus would be a free-loader. I mean, why not be a successful carpenter if he had the skills? Instead he went mooching off of people. Pilate probably saw him as a harmless loser and would have told him to get job.
This is completely untrue. Jesus engaged in the most pure form of voluntary exchange possible, and encouraged his disciples to do the same as far as I know. He told'em to go where they are welcome, to exchange what they know for food and shelter and things they need. Weird, that sounds familiar!

Are you really seriously asking why any historically well known religious figure wouldn't just "go get a 9-5 type job" or "be a CEO" instead of doing what they did? Wow. I suppose you don't see it, but that says (implies) a lot. Yes he was viewed as harmless, but Pilate never told him to go get a job, not even when he saw him. If he wanted to I'm sure he would have.
 
Quote from nitro:

These guys are stuck on efficiency and production, and not the overall quality of life of the individual. What good is endless efficiency if it doesn't reduce our need to work to exist? HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT MACHINES! These people don't get it. Until the accounting takes the amount of free time an individual has to himself and his family (or even to continue to educate himself to keep up with the demands of corporations for more technologically savvy workers), corporations and workers will always be at odds with each other, "efficiency and equality" notwithstanding.
This deserves a bump. Efficiency usually means work more for less.
 
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