'99ers' exhaust benefits, Thousands are banding together to ask for more extensions!

Quote from Scataphagos:

In other words, we have a huge "surplus of labor" both within the US and around the world... many of whom are competing for our once well paying, middle-class jobs.

Most of the unemployeds who think of themselves as middle-class will not find an appropriate paying job for years... for many, NEVER again. We have yet to acknowledge and adjust to this fact.

The days of a single bread winner raising a family from his job that a trained monkey could do are almost over. My old man was a meat cutter and we were a middle class nuclear family. Used to be that you could graduate form high school and work your way up to a decent job in a couple years - even if you weren't bright or talented or skilled. Joe Sixpack could have a wife, two kids and new cars just by sweeping floors at the college, or putting tires on cars, or paving streets or most any other job. But that's not possible today. There are too many people trying to get these sorts of jobs and there are not enough people with brains and talent. A big part of that problem is from how we've lowered educational standards and frowned upon intelligence.

When I was in school, all schools had a big ol' board in the gym that showed various athletic records. Everybody knew the starters on the football team. All the jocks earned their letters and wore cool jackets. Athletic ability was glorified and public. But Iowa Basics scores? Secret. IQ tests? Not sharing those. Grades? Not for public use. Could you imagine if they posted record setting IQ scores or exam grades or anything like that? Intellectual achievement was hidden, secret, something to be ashamed of. Guess what happens when you do that? You end up with a whole lot of people who are capable of the easy, menial jobs but not the intellectually challenging ones.
 
Quote from Misthos:

You don't get it - there are no jobs.

Let me be a little more precise. There are millions of unemployed people - from the middle class - that cannot find a new job that will allow them to retain their middle class status. This is the dilemma. It is a giant intellectual and emotional leap to understand that the possibility to maintain one's middle class "membership" may be over.

I don't blame them. That is a huge devastating reality to accept. In the US, we live by the "generational success" narrative. That is, educate yourself, work hard, play by the rules, and guarantee you will live better than your parents did.

My opinion is that this paradigm died in the 1970s. It was credit growth - public and private - that helped us retain an illusory semblance of that paradigm. But all credit booms go bust eventually, and reality hits us all - including you and me.

How will it affect you and me? Well, those unemployed and bankrupt people helped grow the economy once. Their debts and consumption were yours and my savings. Remove their debts and consumption, and you and I will have to work harder to be able to save and maybe even earn a living. It's all connected.

So spare me your sanctimonious claptrap. You and I are next. Why do you think the government resorted to such historic and gargantuan stimulus measures? It wasn't just to save them - but to save you and me.

I'll say it again - it's all interconnected and we will all feel the pain. The only difference is that some feel it sooner and more harsher than others.

There is no job that allows a person to survive. Let alone maintaining any middle-class status. Even grocery stores want workers with retail experience - if they are hiring at all.

I know several who had great jobs before, now a part-time temporary US 2010 Census that some managed to find. Some said that they couldn't even get a Census job - car has broken down and they cannot afford to repair it.

People are stealing vehicle registration tags where I am. Many cannot afford to insure or register their cars any more. The police are fining those whose tags are stolen!

Welcome to sunny California!
 
After 99 weeks I would be considering:

1) moving furniture
2) working at loading docks
3) highway work
4) home depot
5) lowes

etc etc and I don't even have a family to support. If I had hungry people depending on me I would do *anything* legal and honorable to feed and shelter them.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

After 99 weeks I would be considering:

1) moving furniture
2) working at loading docks
3) highway work
4) home depot
5) lowes

etc etc and I don't even have a family to support. If I had hungry people depending on me I would do *anything* legal and honorable to feed and shelter them.

What make you think that these places would hire you unless you have prior experience and special contacts?

The Census seem to be the only job not requiring prior experience that doesn't exclude the over 50 folks!


P/S
By the way, this hippie didn't get unemployment benefits - was working on 1099 contracts before the recession hit.
In a way, I am envious of those getting all these extensions.
I am working now, but it is part-time and very temporary - but good enough for a hippie living a very simple life.
 
Dude, you are so out of touch. Even accountants can't find jobs. If there's ever been an industry that has always been in demand it's been accounting. Do a little research and find out how many accountants - even CPA's - are out of work and can't find new work. I know people in the health care industry who have gotten laid off. How could you possibly be so unaware of the dire employment situation?

Quote from TGregg:

I've got a novel idea. Why don't they get a #@&(!ng job?! Huh? How about an extremely radical measure like that? In two years, one can retrain, one could pick up new skills and be employable.

Two years isn't enough according to these losers. Think of how long that is, think of where you were two years ago, May 2008. Even if they only put in 50 hours a week looking for work, that's almost FIVE THOUSAND HOURS. If you can't find a job after five thousand hours of effort, you probably aren't going to find one after ten or twenty thousand hours.

If two years isn't enough, how many is? 10 years? 20? Apparently there is no maximum. Time to register democrat and go on welfare.
 
What would you do, get a nursing degree? Nurses are in such high demand they get $5,000 signing bonuses. News flash! That was pre-2007. Even nurses are unemployed because there are so many people who can't pay their medical bills and the hospitals have to eat the cost. Nurses are taking on more patients at a time and nursing students are filling in the gaps and learning fast. Unfortunately, they probably won't have a job to come to when they graduate.

Quote from TGregg:

I'm turning some decent coin now, but if I am out I'll build a plan and the first part will involve (re)training - get some mad skilz. 99 weeks off and I'll be back better than ever. But that's because I rely on myself not my ballot, not a bunch of corrupt, power mad hooligans in DC.
 
LOL! My neighbor used to work at a high paying job in the trades and not surprisingly he's unemployed. He has applied to moving companies, shipping companies, HD, LOW, got retrained to do flag work on road construction. Guess what? Yeah, he's still unemployed. Perhaps you could come up with 5 more things he could try and I'll let him know :D I'm amazed at how ignorant the employed are. If you have a job you have no idea what it is like to find work because you are experiencing the heartache.

Quote from 377OHMS:

After 99 weeks I would be considering:

1) moving furniture
2) working at loading docks
3) highway work
4) home depot
5) lowes

etc etc and I don't even have a family to support. If I had hungry people depending on me I would do *anything* legal and honorable to feed and shelter them.
 
Quote from hippie:

There is no job that allows a person to survive. Let alone maintaining any middle-class status. Even grocery stores want workers with retail experience - if they are hiring at all.

I know several who had great jobs before, now a part-time temporary US 2010 Census that some managed to find. Some said that they couldn't even get a Census job - car has broken down and they cannot afford to repair it.

People are stealing vehicle registration tags where I am. Many cannot afford to insure or register their cars any more. The police are fining those whose tags are stolen!

Welcome to sunny California!
where in California are you at?
 
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