9 Reasons Why America Is a Terrible Place to Raise Kids

I am just trying to argue for the truth. There are tons of govt programs that allow kids to go to college from every demographic--- the cost is most irrelevant with the govt subsidiaries-- obviously, I don't agree with this, but it is the way it is. surf
As you are on a boat, did you not mean trout instead of truth?
 
Lol. It's not a bargain by any means. Raising a kid even in Hongkong and sending it to the top private schools comes cheaper than what you have to cough up in the US for a decent education.

[QUOTE="The U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that the average cost of raising a child born in 2013 will exceed $245,000,

So it's a bargain to have kids in the US, what are u guys complaing about ?[/QUOTE]
 
Surf, Which side are you arguing for? I can attest that in the mid 70's , in the US, private, small New England college education, Including room and board, was $5000. I just checked their site and it is $50000 today. Mid working class wages of 15,000 in the 70's is, in my opinion, conservative or spot on , and were triple the tuition. Working class wages today are not 150k hence the problem.

I think your numbers are about right but you could say the same thing about a whole bunch of other things. Just because it was unnaturally cheap during the 1970s does not mean it can or should be unnaturally cheap now. A lot of things have changed since then.

During the 1970s, education was heavily subsidized but not heavily used. In the late 1960s, about 12% of the population aged 25 to 29 had achieved a BS degree. Now the figure is approaching 30% of the population. I'm looking at wikipedia for the figures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States

So when the price has gone up so much you can attribute that (at least partly) to a failure of the subsidies to ramp up with the use. But there's also been changes in how professors spend their time. They used to carry a much larger teaching load. Now, at least in the STEM stuff I work in, their primary duty is to obtain research funding from the government. And close to half of that is skimmed off and used to pay for bloated administration costs.

As far as students being unable to pay for the costs of their education, most of that is due to the fact that students are getting easier and easier degrees. While the number of people getting college degrees has tripled, the number getting degrees in STEM subjects is roughly the same. And this is while the population has grown.

Students today know that getting a degree in History is not going to make much of a career for them (unless they're a star). So they go to college intending to major in engineering. When they get here, a lot of them discover that engineering isn't easy and more importantly, they don't have any natural ability in the subject. Some of them drop out but a lot switch majors to something a lot easier like "Communication".

Another thing that's going on is that fewer students seem to be "readers". This is probably hitting us harder in the STEM fields than in English or History I suppose. But you see it even in grad students. Young people just don't read as many books as in previous generations, apparently. I have no idea where this comes from; it might be a real change, it might be just perception and it might be that by sending a higher percentage of the population to college, we're digging deeper into the barrel and getting students who are less suitable for academia.

It's difficult for me to justify having the public pay for individual education costs beyond high school. What's going on here is that we are taxing the crap out of blue collar workers in order to subsidize the education (and therefore higher personal earnings) of their bosses. What's more, the children of the educated have huge advantages in college preparation, over the children of blue collar workers. Subsidizing the process makes those class advantages more permanent. Maybe that's why Obama is talking about free 2-year schooling; it's not as elite.
 
Another thing that's going on is that fewer students seem to be "readers". This is probably hitting us harder in the STEM fields than in English or History I suppose. But you see it even in grad students. Young people just don't read as many books as in previous generations, apparently. I have no idea where this comes from; it might be a real change, it might be just perception and it might be that by sending a higher percentage of the population to college, we're digging deeper into the barrel and getting students who are less suitable for academia.

Cable in the 80s. The internet in the 90s. And phones in the 00s. And, of course, video games.
 
As the GOP presidential primary heats up and the 2016 election draws closer, Republicans have been pandering to their far-right evangelical base and blaming social liberalism for the decline of “family values” in the United States. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal insists that liberals are declaring war on families and religious liberty; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has been beating the culture war drum and railing against abortion, gay rights, feminism, same-sex marriage and sexy images in pop music. And as usual, Republicans are overlooking the real reason why so many Americans are either delaying oropting out of parenthood: economic stress. The U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that the average cost of raising a child born in 2013 will exceed $245,000, and birth rates among women in their 20 have reached an historic low in the U.S. (according to the Centers for Disease Control). America’s middle class has been facing a full-fledged economic assault, making it harder and harder to take on the colossal expense of parenthood.

Below are 10 major reasons why the U.S., more and more, has become aterrible place to raise a family unless you’re rich. more . . .



1 for answer to trump the 9 contrarian reasons, its the best place going!
 
Why does any of this have to do with Democrats and Republicans? The world is quite amused about all that infinite finger pointing going on between the 2 American parties. This is a global issue and way beyond political parties.
 
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As you are on a boat, did you not mean trout instead of truth?

More like king mackerel today. LOL!
 
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