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Quote from Lucias:

I like the simplicity but 9-9-9 is very regressive. Good taxes would be invisible. 9-9-9 would be a giveaway to the richest (most money in savings) while taxing the poorest.

Imagine paying 20% tax to buy something. All non essential consumption would stop. Plus people at bottom wrung wouldn't have money to survive.

This is a tax plan for the ultra rich.

You presume much.

Actually, it's more of a plan to get the unemployed back to work.

And just how does that "good and invisible tax" thingy work??
 
Quote from oldtime:

I agree, the only reason I voted for Obama was because he was black. As far as I could tell that was the only thing that made him different from the rest. I'm kind of over it, but the rest of the world isn't.

I listened to Ron Paul on CNBC this morning. The democrats won't admit it, but his policies are a lot more to the democrats liking than Obama's.

He is the only true anti war candidate. And the only one who has ideas and a concern for the dwindling middle class.

Ron paul is not going to win as he has already been seen as a kook. It is not what I think but what the majority of Americans think. We must face reality.

Actually Jon huntsman is probably the most presidential looking of them all, a technocrat,ambassador to both China and Singapore, well respected in Asia, and speaks fluent mandarin, but again he is not going to win.

The only 2 questions you can ask yourself is this:

Are you definitely voting for Obama in 2012? If yes, then the debate is over, there is no point in discussing anybody's policies.

IF no, then you have to ask yourself, Who is best positioned to defeat Obama? America will vote along racial lines AGAIN, there is no point in denying this. We know that as evidenced by OWS, white youth will once again turn out for Obama irregardless of the economy. The ONLY way a republican candidate can win is by splitting the black vote. Right now, the African american vote is the king maker in American politics and CAIN is the only one who can capture 30-40% of the black vote.
 
Cain vs. Obama...it begs the question, do any critics of Affirmative Action see the irony here?

Quote from Grandluxe:

Ron paul is not going to win as he has already been seen as a kook. It is not what I think but what the majority of Americans think. We must face reality.

Actually Jon huntsman is probably the most presidential looking of them all, a technocrat,ambassador to both China and Singapore, well respected in Asia, and speaks fluent mandarin, but again he is not going to win.

The only 2 questions you can ask yourself is this:

Are you definitely voting for Obama in 2012? If yes, then the debate is over, there is no point in discussing anybody's policies.

IF no, then you have to ask yourself, Who is best positioned to defeat Obama? America will vote along racial lines AGAIN, there is no point in denying this. We know that as evidenced by OWS, white youth will once again turn out for Obama irregardless of the economy. The ONLY way a republican candidate can win is by splitting the black vote. Right now, the African american vote is the king maker in American politics and CAIN is the only one who can capture 30-40% of the black vote.
 
Quote from Grandluxe:

Ron paul is not going to win as he has already been seen as a kook. It is not what I think but what the majority of Americans think. We must face reality.

Actually Jon huntsman is probably the most presidential looking of them all, a technocrat,ambassador to both China and Singapore, well respected in Asia, and speaks fluent mandarin, but again he is not going to win.

The only 2 questions you can ask yourself is this:

Are you definitely voting for Obama in 2012? If yes, then the debate is over, there is no point in discussing anybody's policies.

IF no, then you have to ask yourself, Who is best positioned to defeat Obama? America will vote along racial lines AGAIN, there is no point in denying this. We know that as evidenced by OWS, white youth will once again turn out for Obama irregardless of the economy. The ONLY way a republican candidate can win is by splitting the black vote. Right now, the African american vote is the king maker in American politics and CAIN is the only one who can capture 30-40% of the black vote.
the reps didnt want to win last election,they ran mccain and palin,they didnt have a chance anyway after bush,but they would like to lay the worst economy in 50 years at the dem doorstep,so again they will put up a lame candidate,in the background,just to keep the machine in tact, they will make sure that ron paul or any other non dem/rep doesnt get in,last election they filed 300 frivolous lawsuits against ralph nader,exhausting his small campaign fund in legal bills..edit ron paul doesnt have the media remote control at his fingertips...cant remember his name ,the short guy from texas that they ran out,threatened to shame his family publicly
 
Quote from ammo:

the reps didnt want to win last election,they ran mccain and palin,they didnt have a chance anyway after bush,but they would like to lay the worst economy in 50 years at the dem doorstep,so again they will put up a lame candidate,in the background,just to keep the machine in tact, they will make sure that ron paul or any other non dem/rep doesnt get in,last election they filed 300 frivolous lawsuits against ralph nader,exhausting his small campaign fund in legal bills..edit ron paul doesnt have the media remote control at his fingertips...cant remember his name ,the short guy from texas that they ran out,threatened to shame his family publicly

I don't judge anybody by the way they look but my personal opinion is that if the Republican party wants to win this next election, they will need to run a white, Christian man.

Options:

Romney
Dr. Paul
Perry


*I strongly prefer DR. Paul.
 
Quote from Grandluxe:

Polls show at this time Herman Cain is the only republican candidate who can beat Obama. The rest are just fluff.

I'll bet $9.99 right now that Cain will not be the next president.
 
I'm going to say that Dr. Paul is not going to win. I'm going to explain why too because I'm a libertarian and his platform is so radical that even I was like "guffaw". His purpose to challenge the thinking and not to get elected.

If he wanted to get elected he'd choose a moderate platform and have a chance. But he won't which is a shame because we could use a stronger libertarian base.

The point is that ideologically I agree with him. I even voted for him. However, his recent stuff is so radical that I'd be honestly concerned for him to win.
 
This might be a more rational alternative:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13769

Have part of the social security tax go into a private account if you want; this'd be great. Then have a flat tax at 15%. This can be very doable but cutting out all the fat in the federal government, little deductions, and strong economic growth. Ireland and Hong Kong have something similar. And this'll avoid Cain's new sales tax and his vat like business income tax.
 
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