9.5 Million Uninsured People Covered Under Obamacare

Do you understand anything about Sampling Theory? Obviously the answer is no ....

Just because you can fit an end result to a poll does not justify the sample size. Go gt a GED then start junior college.

Better yet, go to one of the bathhouses in SF.

Are you telling me that professional pollsters know less about sampling and statistical significance than a guy who can't even name ACA right?

Another Con who is obsessed about gay sex, how typical.
 
A few years ago I was working in Kannapolis NC. It was gross to go out and eat and watch the huge people gorge themselves. I went to a buffet often that was close because they had a good selection of vegetables and non fried meat. I remember seeing a huge man sitting across from me with enough food in front of him to feed at least four people and this was before he went for desserts. I was thinking if he keels over with a heart attack I'm not giving mouth to mouth. I had to stop eating there just because of the gross people and their eating habits.

My wife and I recently went out to a place where we had a gift card (given to her). We had 3 people seated across from us in a booth ... the following is no joke .. it took the woman at least 2-3 minutes to be seated. She was literally too fat to squeeze in between the bench and the table (that apparently was fixed in the floor). I thought to myself ... "if she's having this much trouble being seated BEFORE she eats how on earth will she get out AFTER having eaten"? And we were there long enough to see the kind of food they ordered. Maybe some people feel a need to reward themselves with food just as some people do by shopping or buying a new car or whatever.
 
And WHY would you cite data 6 years old? Further, I want health care that does not penalize healthy people. I don't care about your Red and Blue crap. People that CHOOSE to jeopardize their own health should pay a surcharge. Comprehendo?

Here is more recent data

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-08-13/obesity-rates-states/57031440/1

I chose to show you that because being a Con, you seem to know very less about your fellow Cons. They are fat idiots who are not very 'personally responsible', so you should lecture them as much you lecture liberals around here.

And what happens to people who didn't choose to jeopardize their health but were victims of accidents or disease, do they have to pay more? What happens to a healthy person who suddenly gets sick by no any fault of their own?

Thing is, you either get rid of pre-existing conditions or you don't, there is no middle way because then everything is a pre-existing condition.
 
The excuse is that the common wisdom on "what makes us fat" has taken a wrong turn for about 40 years. Fat people continue to gorge because, thanks to insulin and fuel partitioning, their tissues (besides adipose) are starving. Once this process begins it is very difficult (see also: diets, success rates) to reverse. But if one is willing to choose to cut carbs and add more protein but especially more fat to their diet, they can begin reducing insulin induced gorging. But that costs more, and it's less convenient--you gotta spend more time in the kitchen.

Your exercise to lose weight assertion is a non-starter. It simply increases your appetite, besides, it doesn't burn nearly enough calories anyway, especially as you become adapted to it. Food composition is king.

But fat people can start out by losing 10 pounds in a week without trying, can't they? And anyone -- fat or thin -- can fill themselves up short term by drinking water. Those who gorge themselves need to CHANGE ... it may not be easy but it's necessary. If it's inconvenient that too bad IMO. To not change, and remain obese, not only adversely impacts your life but it increases medical bills and thus why I feel they should face a financial penalty (since $$$ oftentimes motivates people).
 
But fat people can start out by losing 10 pounds in a week without trying, can't they? And anyone -- fat or thin -- can fill themselves up short term by drinking water. Those who gorge themselves need to CHANGE ... it may not be easy but it's necessary. If it's inconvenient that too bad IMO. To not change, and remain obese, not only adversely impacts your life but it increases medical bills and thus why I feel they should face a financial penalty (since $$$ oftentimes motivates people).

Ten lbs in a week is extreme (though rapid weight loss is said to be easier for those with a lot to lose). Most obese persons who start low carb or very low carbing (LC or VLC) lose about five lbs in the first week, and most of that is water. Which is good, since they've begun improving their hormonal balance. But ten lbs is another five pounds on top of water. If you manage to preserve your muscle mass (still more methods required), it will come from fat. One lb of fat is 3500 calories, so we're talking about a fat withdrawal of 17,500 calories for the week--that's very hard to do, and not a good idea.

Of course you're right in one sense, people can and do lose weight. But as I mentioned before, it is next to impossible for the masses living high-stress, sleep deprived lives on cheap carbs.
 
Here is more recent data

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-08-13/obesity-rates-states/57031440/1

I chose to show you that because being a Con, you seem to know very less about your fellow Cons. They are fat idiots who are not very 'personally responsible', so you should lecture them as much you lecture liberals around here.

And what happens to people who didn't choose to jeopardize their health but were victims of accidents or disease, do they have to pay more? What happens to a healthy person who suddenly gets sick by no any fault of their own?

Thing is, you either get rid of pre-existing conditions or you don't, there is no middle way because then everything is a pre-existing condition.

Which part of my prior post did your feeble mind not comprehend? I CLEARLY stated I don't care about Red or Blue states. I care about fairness in health care reform. Get it??

Again, since you're challenged mentally it seems .... MANY people have (supposed) pre-existing conditions due to their own CHOICES. I could choose to be a slob. I could choose to not exercise. I could choose to eat 3000 calories per day. I could choose to smoke, drink to excess and use drugs. I could choose all of the above and MORE to jeopardize my health. But I don't because (1) I value my health (2) I pay 100% of my health care costs (premiums to out of pocket) (3) I won't get a handout (subsidy) for Odumbocare. And to repeat .. since you clearly know nothing about insurance ... people who knowingly engage in risky behavior pay higher premiums in other forms of insurance, from auto to homeowners. Thus, the same should be true with health insurance. And it was (to an excessive extreme) in the past when people with 'REAL' pre-existing conditions were denied insurance. You've yet to give a single reason to counter my logic. Probably because you can't. Back from the bathhouse??
 
DH, suppose you chose to eat 5000+ calories a day? Have a look at Sam Feltham's 21 day high calorie diet experiments (he did two, varying the proportions of macronutrients.).

Interesting experiment.
 
Ten lbs in a week is extreme (though rapid weight loss is said to be easier for those with a lot to lose). Most obese persons who start low carb or very low carbing (LC or VLC) lose about five lbs in the first week, and most of that is water. Which is good, since they've begun improving their hormonal balance. But ten lbs is another five pounds on top of water. If you manage to preserve your muscle mass (still more methods required), it will come from fat. One lb of fat is 3500 calories, so we're talking about a fat withdrawal of 17,500 calories for the week--that's very hard to do, and not a good idea.

Of course you're right in one sense, people can and do lose weight. But as I mentioned before, it is next to impossible for the masses living high-stress, sleep deprived lives on cheap carbs.

Even if mainly water loss in first week or two .. and I agree that is a big part of it but I would think psychologically an obese person would be happy with the loss, more motivated to continue and willing to take the right steps to get there (from hitting the gym to working with a personal trainer to modifying diet in a sensible way). Sure, that might cost a little $$ but in the long run it can save a LOT of $$$ in the way of cost avoidance for health issues from medication to surgery. If it were easy 100% of us would be slim and fit. But like anything worthwhile in life, it takes some hard work (once a person has allowed themself to get that way).
 
DH, suppose you chose to eat 5000+ calories a day? Have a look at Sam Feltham's 21 day high calorie diet experiments (he did two, varying the proportions of macronutrients.).

Interesting experiment.

Problem with overweight and obese people is they probably eat very little of what he was eating for 21 days. And if they eat fish it's probably fried. Meat? Probably a greasy hamburger (and not grass fed beef). And they eat crackers, cookies, ice cream, cake, etc. .... all the 'bad' things.

He also runs boot camps I believe ... which can burn off a LOT of calories, regardless of how taken in .
 
Problem with overweight and obese people is they probably eat very little of what he was eating for 21 days. And if they eat fish it's probably fried. Meat? Probably a greasy hamburger (and not grass fed beef). And they eat crackers, cookies, ice cream, cake, etc. .... all the 'bad' things.

He also runs boot camps I believe ... which can burn off a LOT of calories, regardless of how taken in .

He stated that he didn't vary his normal exercise routine between the two 21 day challenges, so the burning off of calories angle is a wash. You're right about what macronutrients the obese are eating. Now look at the cost(s) difference between 300 calories of cookie, and 300 calories of lean chicken. Throw in minimum wage, a couple of jobs, long commutes by bus, and maybe a kid or two, and you have a environment that strongly promotes (but not guarantees) obesity. Perhaps we can agree that choices are easier to make in some environments over others. : )
 
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