9.5 Million Uninsured People Covered Under Obamacare

[exGOPer]

About 9.5 million Americans who were previously uninsured have gotten health coverage under Obamacare, according to a new analysis.

The Los Angeles Times reported the number, which combines data from an unpublished study by RAND Corp. with other publicly available figures. It's one of the most comprehensive efforts yet to asses the law's impact on the uninsured as open enrollment comes to a close.

The numbers break down like this:
6 million people have enrolled in private coverage through Healthcare.gov and its state counterparts. The Times estimated that about one-third of them -- or about 2 million -- were uninsured, based in part on new numbers from RAND.
4.5 million previously uninsured people have signed up for Medicaid since the law launched in October, according to RAND.
3 million young adults age 26 and younger have gotten covered through their parents' insurance plan, as the law allows.
RAND also estimated that about 9 million people have signed up for coverage directly through their insurer, though most of those people were already insured. RAND has surveyed 3,300 adults, ages 18 to 64, nationally. It estimated that the uninsured rate for that population has fallen from 20.9 percent to 16.6 percent.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...tional-20140331,0,5472960.story#ixzz2xXuhljEu

 

[exGOPer]

So much for the 'lost insurance' meme

Republican critics of the law have suggested that the cancellations last fall have led to a net reduction in coverage.

That is not supported by survey data or insurance companies, many of which report they have retained the vast majority of their 2013 customers by renewing old policies, which is permitted in about half the states, or by moving customers to new plans.

"We are talking about a very small fraction of the country" who lost coverage, said Katherine Carman, a Rand economist who is overseeing the survey.

 

[DHOHHI]

About 9.5 million Americans who were previously uninsured have gotten health coverage under Obamacare, according to a new analysis.

The Los Angeles Times reported the number, which combines data from an unpublished study by RAND Corp. with other publicly available figures. It's one of the most comprehensive efforts yet to asses the law's impact on the uninsured as open enrollment comes to a close.

The numbers break down like this:
6 million people have enrolled in private coverage through Healthcare.gov and its state counterparts. The Times estimated that about one-third of them -- or about 2 million -- were uninsured, based in part on new numbers from RAND.
4.5 million previously uninsured people have signed up for Medicaid since the law launched in October, according to RAND.
3 million young adults age 26 and younger have gotten covered through their parents' insurance plan, as the law allows.
RAND also estimated that about 9 million people have signed up for coverage directly through their insurer, though most of those people were already insured. RAND has surveyed 3,300 adults, ages 18 to 64, nationally. It estimated that the uninsured rate for that population has fallen from 20.9 percent to 16.6 percent.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...tional-20140331,0,5472960.story#ixzz2xXuhljEu

Sorry but with 3 math degrees and one in Stats a sample size of 3300 for the entire country is laughable. That's 60 people (on average) per state. That is not statistically representative of the country.

And funny, how you who ripped people a couple weeks ago for using estimates or extrapolations now is doing just that!

Odumbocare has 0% chance of working in its present form.

 

[bigarrow]

The ACA is probably here to stay. If we're not at the point of no return we soon will be. There will be millions of Americans on compliant plans and the insurance companies have set up their infrastructure to comply with the new law. Even if the reps control all three branches it is unlikely they would do a blanket repeal of the law. With the only option being to offer a new plan to replace the ACA, the reps will not be able to unite to pass a viable replacement for the ACA.

 

[DHOHHI]

The ACA is probably here to stay. If we're not at the point of no return we soon will be. There will be millions of Americans on compliant plans and the insurance companies have set up their infrastructure to comply with the new law. Even if the reps control all three branches it is unlikely they would do a blanket repeal of the law. With the only option being to offer a new plan to replace the ACA, the reps will not be able to unite to pass a viable replacement for the ACA.

It's essential IMO to offer more than one plan.

Just because 2/3 of the country is overweight or obese doesn't mean we cater to them. Healthy people want a plan that suits their needs and just because we're now a minority doesn't mean we shouldn't have a plan that makes sense.

Here's an idea that would never go anywhere .... for those people who are overweight or obese and have 'pre-existing' conditions brought on by that (which includes excessive eating, no exercise, etc.) charge them higher rates for insurance just as we do in other forms of insurance for higher risk people. And ... as an incentive, offer a premium rebate at the end of the year if they (1) lose weight (2) implement an exercise program (3) become healthier.

That said I'm heading out for my 5+ mile run.

 

[exGOPer]

Sorry but with 3 math degrees and one in Stats a sample size of 3300 for the entire country is laughable. That's 60 people (on average) per state. That is not statistically representative of the country.

And funny, how you who ripped people a couple weeks ago for using estimates or extrapolations now is doing just that!

Odumbocare has 0% chance of working in its present form.

Obama 50% - Romney 47%

That's the Pew poll on November 4, 2012

The analysis in this report is based on telephone interviews conducted October 31-November 3, 2012, among a national sample of 3,815 adults.

http://www.people-press.org/2012/11/04/obama-gains-edge-in-campaigns-final-days/


Actual Results

Obama - 51.1% Romney - 47.2%

Tell us more Mr. Math

 

[exGOPer]

It's essential IMO to offer more than one plan.

Just because 2/3 of the country is overweight or obese doesn't mean we cater to them. Healthy people want a plan that suits their needs and just because we're now a minority doesn't mean we shouldn't have a plan that makes sense.

Here's an idea that would never go anywhere .... for those people who are overweight or obese and have 'pre-existing' conditions brought on by that (which includes excessive eating, no exercise, etc.) charge them higher rates for insurance just as we do in other forms of insurance for higher risk people. And ... as an incentive, offer a premium rebate at the end of the year if they (1) lose weight (2) implement an exercise program (3) become healthier.

That said I'm heading out for my 5+ mile run.

Won't work, it will sink the red states insurance pools

 

[Ricter]

Margin of Error Calculator

 

[bigarrow]

It's essential IMO to offer more than one plan.

Just because 2/3 of the country is overweight or obese doesn't mean we cater to them. Healthy people want a plan that suits their needs and just because we're now a minority doesn't mean we shouldn't have a plan that makes sense.

Here's an idea that would never go anywhere .... for those people who are overweight or obese and have 'pre-existing' conditions brought on by that (which includes excessive eating, no exercise, etc.) charge them higher rates for insurance just as we do in other forms of insurance for higher risk people. And ... as an incentive, offer a premium rebate at the end of the year if they (1) lose weight (2) implement an exercise program (3) become healthier.

That said I'm heading out for my 5+ mile run.

I think you and I could hammer out a comprise but then we'd be in a group of two. I'm jealous of you running. The doc told me to limit the high impact activities on my knees if I wanted to stay out of the operating room.

 

[Ricter]

I think you and I could hammer out a comprise but then we'd be in a group of two. I'm jealous of you running. The doc told me to limit the high impact activities on my knees if I wanted to stay out of the operating room.

DHOHHI appears to be operating under the calories in calories out model. It doesn't stand up very well at all except in the most extreme scenarios. The type of calories consumed is much more important for people living in perpetual food surplus conditions. Persons eating in excess of their daily caloric needs, but low carbohydrate/high fat, will excrete a great number of calories in the form of ketones, and not add to their fat mass. Persons eating at caloric need but high carbohydrate will "fuel partition" to fat storage and suffer an eventual reduction to their energy level. As Taubes points out in his excellent books, we don't get fatter because we're so hungry, we're so hungry because we're getting fatter.