9/11 Truthers

Quote from Maverick74:

OK, I'll ask you since no one else will answer. Why did we want to take down the WTC and destroy our economy and wipe out everyone's wealth including the so called wealthy people behind this. I'm all ears.
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I am not saying we wanted to take down the wtc.

I am saying... Bush Senior and his carlyle friends are oil men... who work quite closely with Saudi Arabia.

We know or suspect highly that bin laden was financed by relatives in Saudi and Saudi oil people and govt people.

so... bush junior... knowing this stuff had to wonder who knew what when.

And we know bush junior helped them out of the country.
 
Quote from jem:

I am not saying we wanted to take down the wtc.

I am saying... Bush Senior and his carlyle friends are oil men... who work quite closely with Saudi Arabia.

We know or suspect highly that bin laden was financed by relatives in Saudi and Saudi oil people and govt people.

so... bush junior... knowing this stuff had to wonder who knew what when.

And we know bush junior helped them out of the country.
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Yes, but we got none of the oil. I'm sorry Jem, I'm a trader. I don't get long or short unless I expect to make money. I'm not going to lose money to help you get out of a bad trade neither would you for me. I just can't suspend logic to make these conspiracies work.

BTW, you do know that we have more oil in the shales of the upper midwest then all of Saudi Arabia right?
 
What do you mean we got none of the oil? See what Exxon's profits are these days?
Granted we don't have full control over the wells. The leaders installed in Iraq gave the French and Spanish a bunch of oil contracts, because Bush and Co were a bunch of retards and couldn't run their empire properly.

If you thought that we would go into Iraq and gas prices in the US would be cheap, you are quite foolish.

Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, but we got none of the oil. I'm sorry Jem, I'm a trader. I don't get long or short unless I expect to make money. I'm not going to lose money to help you get out of a bad trade neither would you for me. I just can't suspend logic to make these conspiracies work.

BTW, you do know that we have more oil in the shales of the upper midwest then all of Saudi Arabia right?
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I don't think US forces will ever leave Iraq. This is the real explanation, imo, for the invasion. To leave a permanent base.
 
Quote from Larson:

I don't think US forces will ever leave Iraq. This is the real explanation, imo, for the invasion. To leave a permanent base.
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Correct. Imperialistic, mercantilistic.
Was planned for while Clinton was in office (see PNAC for those with Grade 3 reading comprehension and higher - 337 you should stop right here. )
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, but we got none of the oil. I'm sorry Jem, I'm a trader. I don't get long or short unless I expect to make money. I'm not going to lose money to help you get out of a bad trade neither would you for me. I just can't suspend logic to make these conspiracies work.

BTW, you do know that we have more oil in the shales of the upper midwest then all of Saudi Arabia right?
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I am not asking for you believe shit... I am pointing out that all the people who think this is a cut and dry situation in which Osama Bin Laden did it... (which I believe) are missing out on some easy connections.

You can trade however you wish. I trade better when I get a signal and when I completely understand the trade and am early or when I have no idea what is going on and suspect other people don't either.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, but we got none of the oil. I'm sorry Jem, I'm a trader. I don't get long or short unless I expect to make money. I'm not going to lose money to help you get out of a bad trade neither would you for me. I just can't suspend logic to make these conspiracies work.

BTW, you do know that we have more oil in the shales of the upper midwest then all of Saudi Arabia right?
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What is clear is that the conspriracy nuts aren't subject to facts, logic or reason. When confronted they become psychotic.
They are mentally ill.

Arguing with them serves no purpose except to reinforce their image as unbalanced people.

Optional is a foreigner obsessed with the USA and its politics. He harbors so much hatred towards America that he manifests fantasies about the 9/11 attack coming from within. He can't be reasoned with because he is sick. Harmless but quite mentally ill.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

How is it that YOU "know it with such certainty"?
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Because what he is asserting is about the same what i hear from government for last 10-15 years. So far they were lying to us pretty much about evrything so i am doubtful of anything what resembles official line.....
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, but we got none of the oil. I'm sorry Jem, I'm a trader. I don't get long or short unless I expect to make money. I'm not going to lose money to help you get out of a bad trade neither would you for me. I just can't suspend logic to make these conspiracies work.

BTW, you do know that we have more oil in the shales of the upper midwest then all of Saudi Arabia right?
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In this answer you have clearly suspended logic for the sake of promoting your beliefs. overall you are an excellent poster but defending fucked up government in this thread... i just don't get it. It is really surprising to me
 
I'm not a truther and feel that the official version of events is probably fairly close to the real events. I, also, believe that the government used this event to whittle away at some of our freedoms and further own aims.

However and having said that, there is one striking thing that stands out in my mind was they were able to pilot these planes into the Pentagon and World Trade Center and none of them (except for the one the passengers took over) missed their marks.

I don't know much about flying. But, I have played with Flight Simulator. And, it seems it would take quite a bit of skill to find the landmarks and hit them.

I know that the hijackers went to pilot school but some of the reports claimed they could barely even land a plane. You would have to line up well in advance to hit one of these targets, I would think. It seems like it would be especially difficult to pilot into the Pentagon.

So, either these terrorist were very skilled or got very lucky.. it just seems something is missing in that.
 
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