You are right Mav. Every life is exactly as valuable as any other. Every family suffers exactly the same if their kin are killed at Hiroshima or on the beach at Normandy the same as if they were randomly sniped by the Son of Sam killer. Or killed in a mugging in Central Park. Or even killed by a slip on the ice with no one at fault.
Unless of course they were killed in Vietnam before JFK committed more troops. Then, as you can see, these losses of life aren't quite so important. At least not to someone with a complete political slant or an argument to make on every topic:
Those two soldiers lives were less important to their families because they were killed when Eisenhower was in the Whitehouse?
Max somehow seems to have a tone of vilification of JFK for sending 100 soldiers to Vietnam in his first 6 months in office. This coming from Max the Hawk? (Gee, 100? Is that too much or too little?....hard to tell in this context...except the the "your pal" part. That leads me to believe 100 was too many).
I am not looking to get into another pissing match with Max. As a matter of fact, I won't respond to his sure to come acrid response. But I had to use this example in this context. It seems to me that you (MAV) are right. We agree here. Each death is exactly as important and exactly as devastating as any other. Great numbers of deaths in no way diminish the value of any one life lost.
When will we start to agree that we are ALL AMERICANS? (Or mostly Americans, but presumedly all civilized peace loving guys just trying to support ourselves and our families in somewhat the same way....trading....the common thread between us all).
When will the partisan name calling and political divisiveness stop making us ALL laughable? No problem arguing politics. Or even religion. But why the name calling? What don't I get?
Mav, in the "Mav and RS only" thread, I came back to see it had developed into a free for all. When you wanted to keep it "private" I thought you were making a mistake. Now I am not so sure. Because the "outside agitators" have caused a lot of name calling. Why does this seem unavoidable? I can argue with you, and you with me, but I don't recall any name calling between us ever. Insults? Yeah, things could be taken that way I suppose. All a matter of perception. However speaking for myself, I NEVER meant to attack you as a person. Only some of your beliefs. But beliefs are just that. Not right or wrong. Just different ways of looking at things. But crude name calling? Not that I remember. Am I mistaken? Mav, don't be pulled down by others. You may be a badly misguided right wing reactionary maniac, but that in no way makes you a bad person
!!!!! Pabst called me a "Prick", and I have not let him live it down. I actually happen to like Pabst a lot. I respect that he backs up his beliefs with action. (As do you. As do I). So I will get as much mileage out of his calling me a "prick" as I can...sort of a friendly ball busting thing....although I know I should stop....he did apologize. And for that, Pabst gets a lot of points. Apologies are perhaps the most rare thing we find on ET. Really almost unheard of.
Longshot apologized to me once (as he needed to in that particular instance). As off the wall as I think Longshot is most of the time (even when I agree with him, which is often, but in discussions I try to stay clear of), in general I find him too far over the top. But that one little apology has made me look at him in a whole new light. Hell, if Longshot can do it, anyone can
.Peace,
RS