9/11 Families Blast Clarke!

Maverick74 · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from bungrider:

Yeah, I also miss the days of "the buck stops here."

Funny how securing Iraq's largest oil field (in the south) was spelled out in the original wolfowitz plan.

God-damn that dick cheney and his cronies to eternal hell for profiting from this terrible disaster.

And god bless Clarke, O'Neill, and their sets of balls for going up against the war machine.

I didn't know this until recently, but Cheney is a relic from the nixon administration.

You don't have a political bias here do you?

Maverick74 · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from Turok:

Mav:
>And donating some of the money to the families of
>9/11 is not good enough. He should donate all of it.
>Why should he be able to make millions off of their
>deaths so he can buy a new condo in Georgetown
>and a new BMW. What a sick world we live in.

To be consistent here with this logic, you would also have to oppose ALL the people who have written books on that subject and profited from it...even though who you agree with.

Now perhaps that IS your position and if so I applaud it.

JB

You are correct. I hate anybody that exploits tragedies on the right or the left. There is plenty of money to be made in this world and there are plenty of great books that can be written without having to do it at the expense of those who lost their lives. I think those on the right that do it are just as much scum as those on the left. No political bias on my end.

bungrider · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

You don't have a political bias here do you?

C'mon -- how's about a response to my post?

You think a guy who wrote a book is a scumbag, but you don't think that a guy whose former company would profit enormously from an Iraq invasion IS a scumbag? Especially considering his administration 1)Lied about ties between Iraq and Al-Queda, and 2)Lied about the justification for invading Iraq (includes making up evidence).

At least Clarke's book won't get anyone killed, except maybe Clarke and his family...:eek:

Maverick74 · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from bungrider:

C'mon -- how's about a response to my post?

You think a guy who wrote a book is a scumbag, but you don't think that a guy whose former company would profit enormously from an Iraq invasion IS a scumbag? Especially considering his administration 1)Lied about ties between Iraq and Al-Queda, and 2)Lied about the justification for invading Iraq (includes making up evidence).

At least Clarke's book won't get anyone killed, except maybe Clarke and his family...:eek:

Bung, Cheney did not profit one cent on the war. Not a single penny. Look it up.

bungrider · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

Bung, Cheney did not profit one cent on the war. Not a single penny. Look it up.

I said "former company"

Maverick74 · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from bungrider:

I said "former company"

Who cares how it benefits his former company? How is it benefiting Cheney?

fxtrading · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

Who cares how it benefits his former company? How is it benefiting Cheney?

stock options

A report by the Congressional Research Service undermines Vice President Dick Cheney's denial of a continuing relationship with Halliburton Co., the energy company he once led, Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Thursday

The report says a public official's unexercised stock options and deferred salary fall within the definition of "retained ties" to his former company.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml

Maverick74 · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from fxtrading:

stock options

A report by the Congressional Research Service undermines Vice President Dick Cheney's denial of a continuing relationship with Halliburton Co., the energy company he once led, Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Thursday

The report says a public official's unexercised stock options and deferred salary fall within the definition of "retained ties" to his former company.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml

Yeah but what you don't understand is the amount he gets from those is fixed. Meaning it does not gp up or down. If HAL stock went through the roof, he gets the same amount and if HAL went bankrupt he would get the same amount. It's tied into his benefits package that ws negotiated before he retired. In other words, IT MEANS NOTHING!

AAAintheBeltway · Mar 29, 2004

I find it curious that Democrats on the Hill are supposedly outraged that Bush misled them about the war, etc, yet they profess to be completely cool with the fact that Clarke now says he basically lied to them. His excuse, that he was representing the administration, doesn't count for much if they disagree with you, as countless Republican officials who have been subjected to witch hunts can testify.

bungrider · Mar 29, 2004

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I find it curious that Democrats on the Hill are supposedly outraged that Bush misled them about the war, etc, yet they profess to be completely cool with the fact that Clarke now says he basically lied to them. His excuse, that he was representing the administration, doesn't count for much if they disagree with you, as countless Republican officials who have been subjected to witch hunts can testify.

you've got to be kidding about the witch hunts...

unless i am missing something, clarke has also requested that ALL of his testimony be made public, plus i don't see how you can condemn his farewell letter to bush -- if you've never kissed a boss' or former boss' ass before, then you're a better man than most people...