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85 billion a year hit to US economy
- Thread starter Mvector
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Quote from Free Thinker:
what would be the cost if a couple of planes blew up in mid air?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233350&perpage=6&pagenumber=3
Quote from oldtime:
If planes just randomly blew up in mid air, I bet you that the only airlines that wouldn't suffer are those that offer regular flights to Las Vegas. Then we'd see who the real gamblers are.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233350&perpage=6&pagenumber=3
Courage is the only backbone of freedom - not cowardice.Quote from oldtime:
Laugh if you want. I want my government to protect me from everything. American exceptionalism is just a myth. Without a powerful government we would be just like all the other countries where might makes right. America is the land of the free because we are free from worry when we get on a plane that somebody is going to blow it up. Try getting on an airplane in some country that doesn't have a TSA and see how free you feel.
I feel bad that you have been brainwashed into thinking a government makes you safe - you are the "class" they always wanted to build - you are their dream citizen - locked in fear, and in constant feel of need of their protection.
Quote from Mvector:
Courage is the only backbone of freedom - not cowardice.
I feel bad that you have been brainwashed into thinking a government makes you safe - you are the "class" they always wanted to build - you are their dream citizen - locked in fear, and in constant feel of need of their protection.
Well said. Old Timer represents everything that is wrong with America. Those who give up liberty for security, deserve neither - Ben Franklin.
Quote from Mvector:
Their opinion as to the total impact of people not flying - not going to the hotel - not renting a car - not conducting busines - etc - etc - etc.
but you said they go by some other method. They still spend the travel money. In central and southern California I take the AmTrak.. interesting that though, one trip I found that a Black guy with Blue Tennis Shoes [Cripps] was riding along and conducting business in Chicago and Los Angeles via his cell phone, I'm not the only one that wants to avoid the airports...
The real loss to the economy is the bloated government thingy. If we wanted to narrow the number of people we were trying to keep from blowing up planes we would give everybody free psych evals and keep tabs on about 5% of the population just as a routine crimestopper thingy for openers. That isn't even interference with their freedoms that much. We would definitely profile people, we would do things way different... I'm doing this in my personal life. I'm learning to spot psychopaths, it's too cool, they have "poker tells". I require very little interaction to nail a diagnosis.. if I want to follow up for some reason, a $50 investigation would confirm or deny.. I'm interacting on a daily basis with about 200 people currently and were I allowed to bury six or seven psychopaths it would raise the quality of existence by 50%...
One guy I heard in an interview pointed out that the screening causes queing and a large number of people behind the checkpoints that are a good target for a homicidal maniac with some plastic explosives.. or a plastic blade for that matter...
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:
but you said they go by some other method. They still spend the travel money. In central and southern California I take the AmTrak.. interesting that though, one trip I found that a Black guy with Blue Tennis Shoes [Cripps] was riding along and conducting business in Chicago and Los Angeles via his cell phone, I'm not the only one that wants to avoid the airports...
The real loss to the economy is the bloated government thingy. If we wanted to narrow the number of people we were trying to keep from blowing up planes we would give everybody free psych evals and keep tabs on about 5% of the population just as a routine crimestopper thingy for openers. That isn't even interference with their freedoms that much. We would definitely profile people, we would do things way different... I'm doing this in my personal life. I'm learning to spot psychopaths, it's too cool, they have "poker tells". I require very little interaction to nail a diagnosis.. if I want to follow up for some reason, a $50 investigation would confirm or deny.. I'm interacting on a daily basis with about 200 people currently and were I allowed to bury six or seven psychopaths it would raise the quality of existence by 50%...
One guy I heard in an interview pointed out that the screening causes queing and a large number of people behind the checkpoints that are a good target for a homicidal maniac with some plastic explosives.. or a plastic blade for that matter...
bloated government is a part of the problem with excessive costs, as is foreign vacation & business travelers who will not fly into the US now because of our TSA policies. Several business owners I know in canada, south america, and europe have completely stopped flying to US. We do gotowebinar or skype meetings all the time which can be a pain. The body scanners and pat downs are the biggest problem.
Quote from oldtime:
If the government can't even protect me when I get on an airplane, what good is the government anyway?
You keep missing the biggest issue - your government is the one tied to all plane related incidents on 9/11 to present. Your government is not trying to protect you at all - when are you going to realize that?