81 Research Studies Confirm Natural Immunity to COVID ‘Equal’ or ‘Superior’

[Cuddles]

"While the latest research suggests that antibodies against Covid-19 could be lost in just three months, a new hope has appeared on the horizon: the enigmatic T cell."

So all you can find is an article hoping that "magical T-Cell immunity" exists -- from July of 2020. LOL. You are sounding more like Jem every day.

Nope, I'm posting several studies prior, but you decided to hang onto a journalist's interpretation of things.

The YouTube videos do a good job of explaining if you struggle with reading

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/145476/pdf

 

[Cuddles]

But today’s science scraps that science and bombards us with the belief that the only way our bodies can produce an immune response is via continuous vaccination. Bullshit.

Today's science is same old science + some. We wouldn't have needed boosters if people had vaccinated and we had nipped alpha in the bud. Boosters are no different than needing flu shots every 2 yrs, yet no one bats an eye on that.

Having said that, it's much more profitable to sell Americans 3 shots than selling first shots to foreigners.

 

[Tony Stark]

"While the latest research suggests that antibodies against Covid-19 could be lost in just three months, a new hope has appeared on the horizon: the enigmatic T cell."

So all you can find is an article hoping that "magical T-Cell immunity" exists -- from July of 2020. LOL. You are sounding more like Jem every day.

What % of people in the FDA approval trails got the shots and still got covid?

 

[gwb-trading]

What % of people in the FDA approval trails got the shots and still got covid?

First, let's once again review at a much broader dataset than the trials; the KFF vaccinated breakthrough rate by state or the CDC data on vaccinated breakthrough rate. The CDC and KFF data covering millions of people in the U.S. and the vaccinated breakthrough cases. The maximum vaccinated breakthrough rate in any state is around 0.56% and most states are below 0.2%.

The per-reviewed papers outlining the results of the Phase 3 trails for all the vaccines used in the U.S. are quite easy to find via a simple Google search.

For the Pfizer Phase 3 trial:

A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

So in summary a very low 0.037% vaccinated breakthrough rate for Pfizer.

For the Moderna Phase 3 trial:

The trial enrolled 30,420 volunteers who were randomly assigned in a 1:1 ratio to receive either vaccine or placebo (15,210 participants in each group). More than 96% of participants received both injections, and 2.2% had evidence (serologic, virologic, or both) of SARS-CoV-2 infection at baseline. Symptomatic Covid-19 illness was confirmed in 185 participants in the placebo group (56.5 per 1000 person-years; 95% confidence interval [CI], 48.7 to 65.3) and in 11 participants in the mRNA-1273 group (3.3 per 1000 person-years; 95% CI, 1.7 to 6.0); vaccine efficacy was 94.1% (95% CI, 89.3 to 96.8%; P<0.001).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2035389

So in summary a very low 0.072% vaccinated breakthrough rate for Moderna

From the J&J Phase 3 trial

The per-protocol population included 19,630 SARS-CoV-2–negative participants who received Ad26.COV2.S and 19,691 who received placebo. Ad26.COV2.S protected against moderate to severe–critical Covid-19 with onset at least 14 days after administration (116 cases in the vaccine group vs. 348 in the placebo group.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101544

So a low 0.59% vaccinated breakthrough rate for the single shot J&J.

Tags: COVIDDATA COVIDVACCINES

 

[Tony Stark]

First, let's once again review at a much broader dataset than the trials; the KFF vaccinated breakthrough rate by state or the CDC data on vaccinated breakthrough rate. The CDC and KFF data covering millions of people in the U.S. and the vaccinated breakthrough cases. The maximum vaccinated breakthrough rate in any state is around 0.56% and most states are below 0.2%.


For the Pfizer Phase 3 trial:

A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

So in summary a very low 0.037% vaccinated breakthrough rate for Pfizer.

This says 95%,and it only looks at 7 days after vaccination.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...h-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions

 

[Tony Stark]

First, let's once again review at a much broader dataset than the trials; the KFF vaccinated breakthrough rate by state or the CDC data on vaccinated breakthrough rate. The CDC and KFF data covering millions of people in the U.S. and the vaccinated breakthrough cases. The maximum vaccinated breakthrough rate in any state is around 0.56% and most states are below 0.2%.

The per-reviewed papers outlining the results of the Phase 3 trails for all the vaccines used in the U.S. are quite easy to find via a simple Google search.

For the Pfizer Phase 3 trial:

A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

So in summary a very low 0.037% vaccinated breakthrough rate for Pfizer.

For the Moderna Phase 3 trial:

The trial enrolled 30,420 volunteers who were randomly assigned in a 1:1 ratio to receive either vaccine or placebo (15,210 participants in each group). More than 96% of participants received both injections, and 2.2% had evidence (serologic, virologic, or both) of SARS-CoV-2 infection at baseline. Symptomatic Covid-19 illness was confirmed in 185 participants in the placebo group (56.5 per 1000 person-years; 95% confidence interval [CI], 48.7 to 65.3) and in 11 participants in the mRNA-1273 group (3.3 per 1000 person-years; 95% CI, 1.7 to 6.0); vaccine efficacy was 94.1% (95% CI, 89.3 to 96.8%; P<0.001).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2035389

So in summary a very low 0.072% vaccinated breakthrough rate for Moderna

From the J&J Phase 3 trial

The per-protocol population included 19,630 SARS-CoV-2–negative participants who received Ad26.COV2.S and 19,691 who received placebo. Ad26.COV2.S protected against moderate to severe–critical Covid-19 with onset at least 14 days after administration (116 cases in the vaccine group vs. 348 in the placebo group.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101544

So a low 0.59% vaccinated breakthrough rate for the single shot J&J.

Tags: COVIDDATA COVIDVACCINES

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

Drops from 95 to 91 %with a longer timeframe

J&J just 72%

 

[gwb-trading]

This says 95%,and it only looks at 7 days after vaccination.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...h-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions



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Do you understand that efficacy and effectiveness are not the same thing as vaccinated breakthrough rate. I provided the information you requested on the "% of people in the FDA approval trails got the shots and still got covid" -- including the raw numbers. This is the vaccination breakthrough rate during the trial. Efficacy and effectiveness calculation involve comparisons to the control group.

 

[Tony Stark]

I provided the information you requested on the "% of people in the FDA approval trails got the shots and still got covid" -- including the raw numbers. This is the vaccination breakthrough rate during the trial.

You did and thank you.The numbers are lower than I thought.

 

[Tony Stark]

Fully vaccinated uncle just tested positive for covid,with the PCR test.Says he doesn't feel bad but he has lost his taste and smell.He's pretty sure he got it at work where about 20 of his coworkers over the last few weeks have gotten it.Nearly all of his coworkers who have gotten it were vaccinated because in June his company was paying a 200.00 bonus to anyone who got vaccinated on site and nearly all the drivers and warehouse workers got the vaccine.As far as he knows none of them previously had covid.

 

[Tony Stark]