80th richest person in the world, squatting illegally in government bungalow.

Quote from Eight:

Corruption in the Hindu/Buddha world is through the roof, always was. In Thailand a hit costs about $100 and it happens a lot. A friend grew up there, he told me that once the killers are on the job your only chance is if they are your friends. One PERCEIVED insult will get a price on your head.. I live in the California Central Coastal region, whole lot of flakey people calling themselves Buddhists and talking about reincarnation and how God couldn't possibly punish anybody, etc.. They would take us back thousands of years if they weren't surrounded by Christianity.

I'm afraid your friend is guilty of gross exaggeration. I've lived in Thailand for 17 years now and the notion that hits are a dime a dozen is pure fantasy.
 
Quote from Swan Noir:

Have you learned nothing in your travels? To even mention these poor girls in a thread discussing the criminality of this billionaire thief is incredible. Do you really think what may be both an act of stupidity and desperation on the part of these girls is truly "corruption in its purest form"? Might not the old billionaire woman be more purely corrupt in her greed? Please, tell me you are not serious with that statement before I puke!

I'm reminded of this well known quote:

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

Anatole France

No country is mentioned, but in Thailand social workers have established that these children are often used by gangs to beg, because children and especially girls get more sympathy.

These children, if not being used by their parents, are 'rented' to the gangs. If they do not collect enough, they risk being beaten. This leads to a big dilemma here, does one not give so that begging is discouraged, or does one take pity on the child and give?

Poverty impels people to do some pretty dreadful things. There is much to be said for being compassionate as opposed to judgemental.
 
Yes, compassion has been played upon by many in organized forms of begging and is deplorable. In "the travelers" example he called the two 10 year old girls, without linking it to a gang,"corruption in its purest form" with seemling little distaste for a thieving billionaire.

Those that exploit the poor -- particularly the children of the poor -- are clearly more culpable.

Quote from justrading:

No country is mentioned, but in Thailand social workers have established that these children are often used by gangs to beg, because children and especially girls get more sympathy.

These children, if not being used by their parents, are 'rented' to the gangs. If they do not collect enough, they risk being beaten. This leads to a big dilemma here, does one not give so that begging is discouraged, or does one take pity on the child and give?

Poverty impels people to do some pretty dreadful things. There is much to be said for being compassionate as opposed to judgemental.
 
Quote from toc:

Indians are corrupt but not for 3000 years, I would say for 300 years since the poverty set in due to foreign rules etc.

This moral corrupt nature also results in Indian businessmen 'slavishly' exploiting the employees. Hire for 8 hours a day and work up for 10 is just a norm. All the while pay is the same.



However for a billionaire woman to be sqatting is outright shamelessness.



We need to stop immigration from that rat hole of a country. Colonialism did them a world or good now they want to invade us with fraud natured immigrants.
 
Quote from badvestor:

We need to stop immigration from that rat hole of a country. Colonialism did them a world or good now they want to invade us with fraud natured immigrants.

i would agree and disagree to this. colonialism did them squat of good, may be taught them english and the rest was sucking up the economy and riches of ancient India. it's like thief saying by stealing from you i taught you how to steal.

however, the best and the brightest of that country immigrate to US and other countries and use their smarts for the good of the adopted nations. these brains can be used in their own country.

the most illegal immigration is from the south american nations, mainly mexico and others. these immigrants also do get into lots of illegal activities as most are uneducated and with little skills. MS-13 is the largest rising gang in the US. Gangism and drug dealing is not the variable of Indians or other south Asians. :D

Btw, immigrants from India, Eastern Europe or Europe as a whole, Jews from anywhere, hardworking Asians including Chinese do good to any place they go to. Bad immigrants are most Blacks from western hemisphere, nearly half of south americans and some islamic fanatics like the marathon bomber.

ps: mentioning blacks does not mean that i am prejudice but only telling the general statistics.
 
Quote from Swan Noir:

Have you learned nothing in your travels? To even mention these poor girls in a thread discussing the criminality of this billionaire thief is incredible. Do you really think what may be both an act of stupidity and desperation on the part of these girls is truly "corruption in its purest form"? Might not the old billionaire woman be more purely corrupt in her greed? Please, tell me you are not serious with that statement before I puke!

Corruption is corruption. There are no degrees of corruption, just some corruption pays more/hurts more than other forms. Do you not think that if that rich woman was as poor as those 10 year old girls that she would not also hold a baby that wasnt hers to try to get more money for herself?

Just like thieves. Dont you think that if someone would steal a penny, they surely would steal a million if they had the opportunity? Doesnt matter if a man steals a penny or a billion dollars, The man is still a thief. Doesnt matter if he is old or young, he is still a thief. Same with the corrupt. Doesnt matter if they are poor or rich, their hearts are corrupt. Fix the hearts of the people and you fix the heart of the country.
 
Hogwash.

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Corruption is corruption. There are no degrees of corruption, just some corruption pays more/hurts more than other forms. Do you not think that if that rich woman was as poor as those 10 year old girls that she would not also hold a baby that wasnt hers to try to get more money for herself?

Just like thieves. Dont you think that if someone would steal a penny, they surely would steal a million if they had the opportunity? Doesnt matter if a man steals a penny or a billion dollars, The man is still a thief. Doesnt matter if he is old or young, he is still a thief. Same with the corrupt. Doesnt matter if they are poor or rich, their hearts are corrupt. Fix the hearts of the people and you fix the heart of the country.
 
Quote from toc:

i would agree and disagree to this. colonialism did them squat of good, may be taught them english and the rest was sucking up the economy and riches of ancient India. it's like thief saying by stealing from you i taught you how to steal.

however, the best and the brightest of that country immigrate to US and other countries and use their smarts for the good of the adopted nations. these brains can be used in their own country.

the most illegal immigration is from the south american nations, mainly mexico and others. these immigrants also do get into lots of illegal activities as most are uneducated and with little skills. MS-13 is the largest rising gang in the US. Gangism and drug dealing is not the variable of Indians or other south Asians. :D

Btw, immigrants from India, Eastern Europe or Europe as a whole, Jews from anywhere, hardworking Asians including Chinese do good to any place they go to. Bad immigrants are most Blacks from western hemisphere, nearly half of south americans and some islamic fanatics like the marathon bomber.

ps: mentioning blacks does not mean that i am prejudice but only telling the general statistics.
you said south americans and blacks are bad and indian eastern europe or europe as a whole, jews, asians and chinese are good pretty clear picture of who's good and bad, without meeting all those people,i think that is pre judging btw, there is a lot of crime/fraud in the medical profession,from the educated people you said were good
 
Quote from toc:

i would agree and disagree to this. colonialism did them squat of good, may be taught them english and the rest was sucking up the economy and riches of ancient India. it's like thief saying by stealing from you i taught you how to steal.

however, the best and the brightest of that country immigrate to US and other countries and use their smarts for the good of the adopted nations. these brains can be used in their own country.

the most illegal immigration is from the south american nations, mainly mexico and others. these immigrants also do get into lots of illegal activities as most are uneducated and with little skills. MS-13 is the largest rising gang in the US. Gangism and drug dealing is not the variable of Indians or other south Asians. :D

Btw, immigrants from India, Eastern Europe or Europe as a whole, Jews from anywhere, hardworking Asians including Chinese do good to any place they go to. Bad immigrants are most Blacks from western hemisphere, nearly half of south americans and some islamic fanatics like the marathon bomber.

ps: mentioning blacks does not mean that i am prejudice but only telling the general statistics.

Oh please!
Let me put you a link , so that you can realise everybody has to improve :
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=259035&perpage=6&pagenumber=56
 
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