This was said with a bit of sarcasm, I am sorry you missed it. I did not obviously meant it is the same thing. This was a comparison to NYC process.
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This was said with a bit of sarcasm, I am sorry you missed it. I did not obviously meant it is the same thing. This was a comparison to NYC process.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I commend you on stating it as such. All I'm asking is to not make commentary that is blatantly false. If you aren't familiar with existing laws, say such.
I've stated how I believe some real corrections on gun laws could be made several times, but once more for posterity.
1. Raise the minimum age for all firearms not considered a "hunting rifle" or "shotgun" to 25. Hunting rifles and shotguns can be owned at 21. No one under 21 gets to own any gun. Military active duty included. You surrender your gun (if under 21) when returning home and get it back when you deploy.
2. No more transfers unless they occur at a police station or licensed FFL. No more third party sales without either one of these taking place. If someone commits a crime with a weapon you sold them, and you didn't sell it to them prior to this rule, you are liable for criminal and civil penalties. If you transferred them prior to the law change, you have 90 days to inform law enforcement of that fact.
3. National reciprocity on concealed carry. Criminals are less likely to attack when they are unsure the victim is armed.
4. Concealed carry to require significant training before you get your CCW. Not just this bullshit about "you have to fire one bullet downrange". Annual course taking requirements to ensure you refresh your training and knowledge.
5. A task force of ex military veterans employed in the school system with training to deal with active shooter scenarios. Have to be a vet or officer of the law, have to have passed an Active Shooter training course. Annual requirements for training.
I am fine with all of these.
Ok, fair enough. If you're going to have honest debate, you'd best be clear about that as it makes those on the other side of the argument instantly write you off as a liberal progressive interested in seizing firearms, and we then disengage from conversation from you because it isn't worth it.
You are a liar. And like the scummy leftist you are, you're doubling down.
Here's what you wrote (w/my highlighting): "All it takes to buy a gun in Pennsylvania, for example, is to show up at the store with PA driver license."
If that were true, any criminal with a "PA driver license" could buy one. Because showing up with one is "all it takes." But keep up the lies and distortions because you and your ilk are the best gun salesmen and NRA advocates in the country.
Well, it’s not about making gun purchases harder, it’s about make them more responsible.
There should be accountability for all guns owned. If you want to own 22 guns, fine. Produce those guns every year and re-register them to prove you are still in possession.
This is really what the s at the heart of why people are afraid, there’s too many guns floating around this country and people are not accountable for their guns after the purchase.
Guns used and possessed start out as legal, bought lawfully for the most part, then get resold illegally. If gun owners had to produce every gun they owned every year that would drastically reduce the amount of illegal guns on the street. Less guns on the street less gun violence to worry about.
As to the mass shootings, households need to be part of background checks. Also, safe keeping as well.
I call bullshit again. Your "comparison" is an old leftist tactic meant to stir up the emotions of the ignorant and uninformed.
Way better than my thoughts, and I agree with every word. And yes, private transfer was the loophole I knew about as well.
You are obviously entitled to your own opinion.
And now for a lesson in perspective.
Between the 1999 Columbine High School massacre and the 2018 Santa Fe High School shooting in Texas, more than 214,000 students experienced gun violence at 216 schools, and at least 141 children, educators and other people were killed and another 284 were injured.
141 dead over a 19 year period. That doesn't approach a three month period in Chicago. One city. Add up all the inner city violence and tens of thousands have been killed over that 19 year stretch. Where's the outrage? Yes, mass killings are horrible, but pale in comparison to the day by day, week by week, month by month slaughter that goes on year after year in cities around America. The remedy to address mass killings and the weekly slaughter in the cities are entirely different. Weapons bans will not deter either. Really tough laws that are actually enforced will. What does that mean? Mass incarceration and death penalties, that's what. Watch black leadership and the left piss and moan about that, and then you'll see why the problem prevails. Lesson concluded.
Between the 1999 Columbine High School massacre and the 2018 Santa Fe High School shooting in Texas, more than 214,000 students experienced gun violence at 216 schools, and at least 141 children, educators and other people were killed and another 284 were injured.
141 dead over a 19 year period. That doesn't approach a three month period in Chicago. One city. Add up all the inner city violence and tens of thousands have been killed over that 19 year stretch. Where's the outrage? Yes, mass killings are horrible, but pale in comparison to the day by day, week by week, month by month slaughter that goes on year after year in cities around America. The remedy to address mass killings and the weekly slaughter in the cities are entirely different. Weapons bans will not deter either. Really tough laws that are actually enforced will. What does that mean? Mass incarceration and death penalties, that's what. Watch black leadership and the left piss and moan about that, and then you'll see why the problem prevails. Lesson concluded.
Texas has some of the toughest laws and are fully enforced, yet they have a really high rate of gun violence.
Also, you guys need to get out of your echo chamber. I would like to see military style guns banned, like they were in the 1990’s, but what is truly needed to stop the street violence is a national registration of guns. No more buying guns and running them across state lines to sell them if you have to produce all of your guns every year and re-register them.