8:31Democrats win Senate control with Webb VA victory: AP

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Yes they are ONE of our current government owner groups.....but not the only one. Globalized large corps (who owns these...ahhhhh!) are one part of our current enslavement.

And how many Americans in the past 30 years have run to these large companies for employment and "job security" (away from small business....the back bone of a strong America).....conned again.....LOL! :eek:

So what percentage of America is now self-reliant and financially independent........maybe 1% to 2% at best. Wow, are we ever a strong citizen group these days.....we walked right into our own prison cell as they held that door open for us with a smile on their face. Cattle into the corral, ready to be branded with new ownership....hey at least you have your shinny new iPod to listen to......LOL!!!!!!!! :D

Sad, but true! Not a hell of alot can be added.
 
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republicans or democrats........no difference, just a "ping-pong" distractionary circus as America is slid away from the citizens control. The elites of the world will not let a free nation of citizens control the most powerful country on Earth....no the citizens are being removed from the equation day by day.

great post - thanks. unfortunately, it seems that not only is this true, but inevitable.

there is nothing we've seen in the past 5 years that hasn't played out many times before, step by step, in past empires. accumulation of power in fewer and fewer hands far removed from the people, collusion, favoritism, graft, abuse, deceit. elect the insane and the blatantly criminal to power. fatten up the populace, panis et circenses, keep them distracted in their vulgar pursuits while taxing them to the breaking point. always funded by debasing the currency and racking up debt, debt, and more debt.
 
Quote from 5Pillars:

Yes they are ONE of our current government owner groups.....but not the only one. Globalized large corps (who owns these...ahhhhh!) are one part of our current enslavement.

And how many Americans in the past 30 years have run to these large companies for employment and "job security" (away from small business....the back bone of a strong America).....conned again.....LOL! :eek:

So what percentage of America is now self-reliant and financially independent........maybe 1% to 2% at best. Wow, are we ever a strong citizen group these days.....we walked right into our own prison cell as they held that door open for us with a smile on their face. Cattle into the corral, ready to be branded with new ownership....hey at least you have your shinny new iPod to listen to......LOL!!!!!!!! :D

Your point about credit financing is spot on. The US is full of credit whores. Go to say the former soviet republic of Ukraine ( where one of my American friend/mentor lives) and there is no credit, cash or nothing. That's a bit too extreme and it's stiffiling their economy, just like the credit orgy is bring ours down. Extremism, that's the root of all evil IMO. Whether it's a credit orgy or Jihad freaks blowing themselves up, extremism is dangerous.

I am sure a smart person like yourself has read The Millionaire Next Door. If I can't afford it with cash, other the my mortgage, I don't want it, period. It make for a less stressful trading, that's for sure. :D
 
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