691,000 people moved out of California last year. Here's where they went.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-census-migration-20181221-story.html

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...thy-people-per-report-20180221-htmlstory.html

People from New York, Illinois and New Jersey are moving in
People from 15 states moved in to California between 2007 and 2016, the report found, with most coming from states like New York, Illinois, New Jersey and Michigan.

Low-income folks moved out, high-income folks moved in
People making $55,000 or less a year were mostly moving out of California between 2007 and 2016, the report found, while people making more than $200,000 a year moved in.

More of those residents with lower income were moving to states like Texas, Nevada and Arizona. And more of those with higher incomes were coming into California from states like New York, Illinois, and New Jersey.

Young people with less education also left California
California families with children under 18 years of age moved out in droves to states like Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon. California also lost a lot of people with a high school degree or some college education in this span.

On the flip side, California gained more adults between ages 26 and 35, many with bachelor’s or master’s degree — mostly from New York and from Illinois.

With this, the face of California is changing into one that looks wealthier and middle-aged.

Judging from reactions on Twitter, these population patterns gave people a lot to talk about.
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Not the end of the world for California.
 
bone said:
We don't need to drag in other States - California is doing really well at propagating class warfare on its own. :sneaky:
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I'm actually curious on your thoughts, as someone I think of as an imminently rational conservative based on your viewpoints expressed here, on how you deal with the concept of the tech industry specifically in CA. The industry, with a couple of notable exceptions like Peter Thiel (who I think is more libertarian), is almost exclusively made up of what those on the right in the U.S. would consider fiscally liberal (or "leftist" if you're @guru). And at the same time it's responsible for a huge amount of economic output, which the conservative narrative at least of my earlier conservative self believed was incompatible with economically liberal thought. I reconciled the contradiction by changing my viewpoint, but I'm curious how rational fiscal conservatives who haven't changed their viewpoint carve out a space for this inconsistency?
 
CA has its pros and cons like any other state.

People trying to spin a liberal conspiracy theory of Californians taking over the world with crazy mind control laws sound kind of silly. There is plenty of wealth and technology and service industry coming out of CA as well as shit.

It is just a state, not a plot to rape your skull.
 
I believe in extreme moderation. Anyone who is fundamental anything scares the shit out of me. The conservatives, libertarians and moderates in Silicon Valley keep their mouths shut and political thoughts to themselves in CA. Full stop, that simple. They are rightly terrified of being labeled and blackballed.

I don't place much stock in anyone who thinks that political views are directly correlated to superior anything. And I for one am just as suspicious of the current "woke" leftist SJW's as I am the fundamental religious right when it comes to politics.

I am eminently persuadable and am quite attracted to Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I detest the corporatist Dems and despised what they did to Bernie.

Sig said:
I'm actually curious on your thoughts, as someone I think of as an imminently rational conservative based on your viewpoints expressed here, on how you deal with the concept of the tech industry specifically in CA. The industry, with a couple of notable exceptions like Peter Thiel (who I think is more libertarian), is almost exclusively made up of what those on the right in the U.S. would consider fiscally liberal (or "leftist" if you're @guru). And at the same time it's responsible for a huge amount of economic output, which the conservative narrative at least of my earlier conservative self believed was incompatible with economically liberal thought. I reconciled the contradiction by changing my viewpoint, but I'm curious how rational fiscal conservatives who haven't changed their viewpoint carve out a space for this inconsistency?
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200K net loss which would be a large net gain if not for the dearth of affordable housing. Home prices > 2X the national average and second only to Hawaii.

Cali is responsible for 15% of US GDP.
 
bone said:
I believe in extreme moderation. Anyone who is fundamental anything scares the shit out of me. The conservatives, libertarians and moderates in Silicon Valley keep their mouths shut and political thoughts to themselves in CA. Full stop, that simple. They are rightly terrified of being labeled and blackballed.

I don't place much stock in anyone who thinks that political views are directly correlated to superior anything. And I for one am just as suspicious of the current "woke" leftist SJW's as I am the fundamental religious right when it comes to politics.

I am eminently persuadable and am quite attracted to Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I detest the corporatist Dems and despised what they did to Bernie.
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You're being way too reasonable here. I'm a big fan of Yang as well. Unfortunately he had to make UBI his centerpiece to get enough attention to get into the debates and have a voice but UBI itself just isn't there yet for enough people to even have really thought about it yet alone be comfortable with it. My personal theory about how we get there is through direct return of various "disincentive" taxes (alcohol, tobacco, carbon) to everyone on a flat rate per person basis, which is already being done with carbon taxes in some places. I know from growing up in Alaska that their version of UBI, the Permanent Fund, is immensely popular across any political demographic to the extent that some very conservative folks I know well there advocate for implementing an income tax before dipping into the Permanent Fund, so once you get one in place people seem to like it.
 
California is their own worst enemy. The plague of problems they are experiencing at present are for the most part, but not all, of their own construction.
 
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