666...the Devils Moving Average

easy to prove, look in the mirror!!! You used to be a jackass... now you have de-evolved to a moron troll.
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Explain terminal crosses.
 
Ok... i'll try again.

Shoeshine and I are discussing creationism/intelligent design.

When backed into a corner, many theists start attacking evolution,
or try to switch the subject to evolution.

This is nothing more than a diversion.

I have asked, for the sake of discussion, that
all the atheists hypothetically REJECT evolution
to prevent the theists from switching the subject.


In other words, I do not wish to discuss
evolution with your here until the creation argument is completed.

Or, I will be happy to discuss evolution on another
new thread, but I do not want to muddy the discussion
waters by spawning off a second debate in this thread.

I want to stay focused on the intelligent design argument. (Or lack thereof :D )

peace

axeman



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Try to reduce this a little so that I can understand your point.
 
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Another question I have is: If evolution is true then where is there evidence of one species evolving into another species. Such as cat to dog not a bobtailed cat or taller dog.
I understand the changes within species and have been a selective breeding animal producer for years but I need evidence of going from one species to an entirely different one. We really need evidence of thousands of species jumps but that may be asking too much.

This can really get interesting, nobody wants to dig enough to find out what is up but it gets interesting nonetheless. There is zero evidence of anything changing to another species, pretty muchly zero, no interim species fossils, no laboratory experiments where this has occurred, nothing. They don't emphasize this in school. There is lots of other stuff like dinosaur skeletons that are not fossilized, stalagtites and mites that form in a few years that the "scientists" say would take millions of years, the fact that natural gas is compressed by rock that can only hold the pressure for 20,000 years maximum, but "science" says it has been down there for hundreds of millions of years, the moons of other planets that are still cooling off that "science" says have to have atomic fires going on inside them, with zero proof BTW, the supposed existence of the "Ort Cloud", treated as fact in all the textbooks whereas nobody, including Ort himself has ever seen it, Panangea, the supposed first continent that has Africa expanded by 40% in area and Central America completely left out and wherein you have to spin some of the continents one way and the other continents the other way to get them to come together, the complete conjectural analysis of the size of the universe, based on a couple of assumptions that are never questioned, the circular reasoning "we calibrate the geologic column by the strata, and we calibrate the strata by the geologic column", whereas in fact there is no calibration of either possible, and radiologic readings that don't agree with current thought being thrown out to boot.

The list of reasons why I laugh at "science" is a lot longer than the above, that is just what I can come up with off the top of my head. The venue for arguing against "science" is completley owned by publicly funded universities, no chance of any real argument going on at all in other words, just more blah, blah, blah coming from those jokers starting with indoctrination in grammar school.
 
GG - A few posts back I said I had been in that education system for nearly 20 years and now know that is all bunk. PBS, give me a break, talk about the establishment lock step public education brainwashing crap. This is so superficial I have to laugh.:D
 
I could spend the next 10 pages challenging max
on his empty assertions but why bother.

The point is, nothing he has said lends any
credibility whatsoever to the intelligent design argument.

Just another diversion.


peace

axeman



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This can really get interesting, nobody wants to dig enough to find out what is up but it gets interesting nonetheless. There is zero evidence of anything changing to another species, pretty muchly zero, no interim species fossils, no laboratory experiments where this has occurred, nothing. They don't emphasize this in school. There is lots of other stuff like dinosaur skeletons that are not fossilized, stalagtites and mites that form in a few years that the "scientists" say would take millions of years, the fact that natural gas is compressed by rock that can only hold the pressure for 20,000 years maximum, but "science" says it has been down there for hundreds of millions of years, the moons of other planets that are still cooling off that "science" says have to have atomic fires going on inside them, with zero proof BTW, the supposed existence of the "Ort Cloud", treated as fact in all the textbooks whereas nobody, including Ort himself has ever seen it, Panangea, the supposed first continent that has Africa expanded by 40% in area and Central America completely left out and wherein you have to spin some of the continents one way and the other continents the other way to get them to come together, the complete conjectural analysis of the size of the universe, based on a couple of assumptions that are never questioned, the circular reasoning "we calibrate the geologic column by the strata, and we calibrate the strata by the geologic column", whereas in fact there is no calibration of either possible, and radiologic readings that don't agree with current thought being thrown out to boot.

The list of reasons why I laugh at "science" is a lot longer than the above, that is just what I can come up with off the top of my head. The venue for arguing against "science" is completley owned by publicly funded universities, no chance of any real argument going on at all in other words, just more blah, blah, blah coming from those jokers starting with indoctrination in grammar school.
 
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GG - A few posts back I said I had been in that education system for nearly 20 years and now know that is all bunk. PBS, give me a break, talk about the establishment lock step public education brainwashing crap. This is so superficial I have to laugh.:D
from your very own words asking about evolution, i can tell you are not very familiar with it. the evolution DVDs would help you. i'm the biggest non-bunk person there is. do you think i'd recommend bunk?
 
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