50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Slam NASA For Promoting Man-Made Climate Change

Please... you showed ZERO comprehension of a book you claimed to have read after I finally got you to address a key point Hawking made in it. You tried to troll your way out of answering what I asked you about content by badgering me about what's on page 129 and now you're trying to troll your way out of the fool you made of yourself when you finally answered.
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Possibly, but not necessarily. You took an inordinately and suspiciously long time furnishing me with 2 simple words.
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Obama cares nothing about the climate, the enviroment or any type of energy conservation. If he did we'd be converting to NG for transportaion in a big way. He talks a good game, but his actions are something else. Tells me there is no real threat of man made climate change. It's just another bullshit political issue for them to campaign with. Anyone claiming man made climate change that does not support NG converion is completley full of shit, as are those who claim we need to get off the oil tit and the hot bed of the middle east. Total bullsit!
 
Excellent points.
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Obama cares nothing about the climate, the enviroment or any type of energy conservation. If he did we'd be converting to NG for transportaion in a big way. He talks a good game, but his actions are something else. Tells me there is no real threat of man made climate change. It's just another bullshit political issue for them to campaign with. Anyone claiming man made climate change that does not support NG converion is completley full of shit, as are those who claim we need to get off the oil tit and the hot bed of the middle east. Total bullsit!
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Obama cares nothing about the climate, the enviroment or any type of energy conservation. If he did we'd be converting to NG for transportaion in a big way. He talks a good game, but his actions are something else. Tells me there is no real threat of man made climate change. It's just another bullshit political issue for them to campaign with. Anyone claiming man made climate change that does not support NG converion is completley full of shit, as are those who claim we need to get off the oil tit and the hot bed of the middle east. Total bullsit!
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OK, that's it. I'm taking you off my ignore list on a trial basis. Try and behave yourself and continue to make logical posts. :D
 
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Obama cares nothing about the climate, the enviroment or any type of energy conservation. If he did we'd be converting to NG for transportaion in a big way. He talks a good game, but his actions are something else. Tells me there is no real threat of man made climate change. It's just another bullshit political issue for them to campaign with. Anyone claiming man made climate change that does not support NG converion is completley full of shit, as are those who claim we need to get off the oil tit and the hot bed of the middle east. Total bullsit!
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There is still a matter of balancing opportunity and risk. It's not as clear cut as you may think. Ever hear of fracking?

The increasing pace of natural gas development threatens rivers and streams that provide clean drinking water, habitat for fish and wildlife, and recreational opportunities, such as fishing and boating. Natural gas development enjoys exemptions from keystone environmental laws, such as the Safe Drinking Water Act and the Clean Water Act, exemptions not provided to other industries.

http://www.americanrivers.org/our-work/protecting-rivers/fracking/?gclid=CIvAx-zCr68CFcjb4AodmAj6nA

http://www.ewg.org/gas-drilling-and-fracking?gclid=COOc3L_Dr68CFUfc4Aod2030qQ

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Obama cares nothing about the climate, the enviroment or any type of energy conservation. If he did we'd be converting to NG for transportaion in a big way. He talks a good game, but his actions are something else. Tells me there is no real threat of man made climate change. It's just another bullshit political issue for them to campaign with. Anyone claiming man made climate change that does not support NG converion is completley full of shit, as are those who claim we need to get off the oil tit and the hot bed of the middle east. Total bullsit!
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Only one problem with your poorly thought-out and hysterically naive argument. Nat gas is a fossil fuel and releases CO2 when burnt. Yes, it releases less CO2 when burnt than oil, but fracking releases methane during the extraction process, which is more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. So net net there is little if any improvement in fighting GW by using nat gas over oil/gasoline.

While changing vehicles over to nat gas is great for reducing local hydrocarbon emissions and particulate pollution it is not a cost effective way to reduce GW.
 
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...While changing vehicles over to nat gas is great for reducing local hydrocarbon emissions and particulate pollution it is not a cost effective way to reduce GW.
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I say we just drop another half a billion, we don't have in the first place, on another Solyndra. How's that for cost effectiveness?
 
Climate cycles ebb and flow over eons of time. Human contribution to such things are minor, and is not the driving factor of GW.
In short, global warming is not a serious issue when considering NG conversion. Fracking is managable and poses no problems than cannot be overcome, and are being overcome.
Couldn't care less about the politics of GW, which is all it's really about anyway. It's a made up issue for the campaign trail. Convert to NG now!!
 
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