Quote from Maverick74:
I would actually support collective bargaining if they ran the union themselves without the corrupt union bosses and if they would not be allowed to contribute money to political campaigns. If it's really all about them coming together as one voice to negotiate wages, then they should not need to get involved in politics. And workers should be allowed to compete for the same jobs WITHOUT joining the union.
Are you game?
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
I don't doubt there are corrupt union bosses, why should unions be any less corrupt than any other institution in America?
Does your heart burn in anger at the banks with the same venom as you have for the unions?
Quote from Maverick74:
Actually it does. You won't find me on here defending the banks...ever.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Who is being dismantled more?
The banks, or the unions?
When have we seen a stronger middle class?
When the unions were strong, or when the banks began to exert greater influence on our economy through Reagan's and others deregulation of the banking industry?
Quote from Maverick74:
It's not an either or Zzz. The banks got their power BECAUSE of big government. Don't you find that ironic? I think unions should have to fend for themselves and banks should be allowed to fail and there should be absolutely no more too big too fail.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
The banks got their power over government.
The unions have power over what now?
The government?
The unions are being systematically dismantled.
This is the way to achieve a balance of power?
You are on the wrong side of the argument...
The very best time in America was when there was a dynamic balance of power between workers, government, and corporations.
NAFTA and globalization, along with rise of greed and unbridled self centered capitalism as a goal, is destroying America and our communities.
The attack on unions is a misguided attack by the misguided right wingers who are not paying attention to who is gaining more and more power in America, increasing the gap between the haves and have nots, and destroying the middle class.
Quote from Maverick74:
I don't know why you have such a hard time seeing this relationship but stop and think about it for a moment. What does all corruption have in common? The government. Corporations by themselves are powerless, but once they get connected to the government, they become corrupted. Churches and religion are powerless on their own, but once they become connected to government they become corrupted. Unions are fine on their own, but once they get connected to government they become corrupt.
I'm all for the separation of church, corporations and unions from government. Government corrupts period!
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
All corruption has the government in common?
So corruption in churches is the fault of the government?
You are not a clear thinker...
Quote from Maverick74:
Of course. What if the government pulled the tax exemption from any church that had sexual abuse issues? The government gives the churches millions in tax exemptions. Where do you think a lot of that money goes? Come on man.