41% of Americans want to abolish free speech

Tsing Tao said:
This is snark. You know, in our first discussion (which was when der_kommisar called you out as a new sock puppet) I said my guess was that you were Brass. I said that because you reminded me of that person because of your sarcasm and the manner in which you got riled up when people debated you. But then you seemed to hold your tongue a lot and were far more polite than I remembered Brass being. That's why I was confused and wavered back and forth between dbphoenix and piezoe (the latter being very polite indeed). But it's beginning to appear I was right in the first place because you're reverting back to how I suspect you are all the time. You've just done your best to hide it. Answer this: Are you Brass?
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Its definitely brass/t-dog/gayfly1, he always had the habit of blaming other people for the fact that hes an a-hole just like he is doing now, funny he was the only one to actually take it a step further and give out all of lucrums personal info too that other loon who tried to get him and his wife fired. Funny he always complains its other people who are causing him to be an asshole, but hes the only 1 whose behaviour was so atrocious he got himself banned three times already.
 
Max E. Pad said:
...funny he was the only one to actually take it a step further and give out all of lucrums personal info too that other loon who tried to get him and his wife fired...
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Sorry to disappoint, Max, but that was not me. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. It was probably you or one of your buddies trying to get a rise so that you could then engage in some male pattern bonding with one another. I would never victimize someone's wife, especially Lucrum's, since she already has enough on her plate. I wouldn't even victimize Lucrum in this manner, much as I did not particularly like him.

Interesting that you would immediately bring this up, though. Looking for a group hug again?
 
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As an example. The left has deemed the title of her book, racist and that wold make it hate speech as I understand how hate speech is currently being defined. It would follow that her opinions in the book would also be hate speech.
Yes it's proactive, intentionally so, but both sides play that game. Her opinions are certainly contrary to what many would believe. One can easily see how some people might take offense. So I ask, is it hate speech?
http://cnsnews.com/commentary/ben-shapiro/ann-coulters-war
 
Frederick Foresight said:
Sorry to disappoint, Max, but that was not me. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. It was probably you or one of your buddies trying to get a rise so that you could then engage in some male pattern bonding with one another. I would never victimize someone's wife, especially Lucrum's, since she already has enough on her plate. I wouldn't even victimize Lucrum in this manner, much as I did not particularly like him.

Interesting that you would immediately bring this up, though. Looking for a group hug again?
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For someone signed up here two weeks ago, you certainly seem to know a lot about a poster who hasn't been on here in many months.
 
CaptainObvious said:
If we're going to take speech, call some of it hate, criminalize that, we need to decide just who can and cannot be guilty of such speech given the current PC climate. Of course all white people could be found guilty. Will black people? Brown? Asian? American Indians? Women? Gays? Mentally or physically challenged? I do believe that many on the left side of this debate would claim that no person in a minority category can be guilty of such a crime since they are the "oppressed" people. Goes along the lines of what we hear when black people are accused of racism. Can't be, or so says the left.
Lets just admit that the left wants to pick and choose where these lines will be drawn and they will pick them without regard for any ideology other than their own.
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When a white person says nigger, obviously a hate crime, right? What about when a handicapped black lesbian says it? What if she is "singing" a rap song and says "sum da-um nigger stole my rims"? If blacks have different rules than whites, how much blackness is required? Are there shades? You must be 15% black to use the N word, and 25% black to apply it to a criminal? Are the percentages different for different races? You must be 20% hispanic to use the word spic. Can you get a federal license to allow you to use certain words?

What about bitch? Only for women? What about transsexuals? What about someone who suddenly and briefly feels transsexual, can they say bitch? Suppose somebody decides he is gay, writes the word queer someplace then later decides he is straight, does he still go to jail?

And what about all these new "code words" like we have for the hildabeast campaign? Or "thug"? Are we going to be constantly adding and removing words from the forbidden word list?

Finally, are we also going to outlaw the nursery rhyme about sticks and stones? Wouldn't want to muddle the thinking of the next generation. . .
 
do we really want more cops, more courts, more politicians in another area of our lives?

should we all just want to be left alone if we are not committing serious crimes?

on my desk in front of me, I have examples of 3 things...

1. a parking ticket for an expired registration... even though the system has proof that I paid.

this is so offensive for so many different reasons... including the fact... my car was not moving and the money was paid... but the decal did not make its way to me as it was supposed to.

2. I have property tax bill... (which I really do not mind that much even though it is substantial as local govt deserves some property tax money).

3. I have a speeding ticket for going 55 in a 45... which I fought and got the points removed because the limit had just been changed...

and 3.5... and a few months ago I got a ticket for going through a stop sign at a ski resort area... the stop sign was in an area under contruction. The sign itself was hanging sideways on a construction horse and I proved with photographic evidence could not be seen from where I was turning.

don't even get me into how much crap the gov't does to make business hard to do.

and I am about to pay my monthly health insurance bill which went up 400 dollars a month under obamacare and the Republicans swore they would get rid of it.






TGregg said:
When a white person says nigger, obviously a hate crime, right? What about when a handicapped black lesbian says it? What if she is "singing" a rap song and says "sum da-um nigger stole my rims"? If blacks have different rules than whites, how much blackness is required? Are there shades? You must be 15% black to use the N word, and 25% black to apply it to a criminal? Are the percentages different for different races? You must be 20% hispanic to use the word spic. Can you get a federal license to allow you to use certain words?

What about bitch? Only for women? What about transsexuals? What about someone who suddenly and briefly feels transsexual, can they say bitch? Suppose somebody decides he is gay, writes the word queer someplace then later decides he is straight, does he still go to jail?

And what about all these new "code words" like we have for the hildabeast campaign? Or "thug"? Are we going to be constantly adding and removing words from the forbidden word list?

Finally, are we also going to outlaw the nursery rhyme about sticks and stones? Wouldn't want to muddle the thinking of the next generation. . .
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