Do you understand that guilty pleas are a sign of a strong case,not one thats unraveling?
32 new charges filed against Trump campaign manager and aide. Time to flip or die in prison
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Do you understand that guilty pleas are a sign of a strong case,not one thats unraveling?
that is certainly not laundering dirty russian money while working with Trump.
as you claimed. you need to stick with this point... as that is why I am saying your lied and trolled your ass off...
as a side point... here is a good definition of money laundering...
we saw in the indictment that Mannafort was trying to get money out of his US properties by falsifying loan apps.
Money laundering is concealing the transformation of profits from illegal activities and corruption into ostensibly "legitimate" assets.[1][2] The dilemma of illicit activities is accounting for the origin of the proceeds of such activities without raising the suspicion of law enforcement agencies. Accordingly, considerable time and effort is put into devising strategies which enable the safe use of those proceeds without raising unwanted suspicion. Implementing such strategies is generally called money laundering. After money has been suitably laundered or “cleaned”, it can be used in the mainstream economy for accumulation of wealth, such as acquisitions of properties, or otherwise spent. Law enforcement agencies of many jurisdictions have set up sophisticated systems in an effort to detect suspicious transactions or activities, and many have set up international cooperative arrangements to assist each other in these endeavours.
In a number of legal and regulatory systems, the term money laundering has become conflated with other forms of financial and business crime, and is sometimes used more generally to include misuse of the financial system (involving things such as securities, digital currencies, credit cards, and traditional currency), including terrorism financing and evasion of international sanctions.[3] Most anti-money laundering laws openly conflate money laundering (which is concerned with source of funds) with terrorism financing (which is concerned with destination of funds) when regulating the financial system.[4]
Some countries treat obfuscation of sources of money as also constituting money laundering, whether it is intentional or by merely using financial systems or services that do not identify or track sources or destinations. Other countries define money laundering in such a way as to include money from activity that would have been a crime in that country, even if the activity was legal where the actual conduct occurred.[5]
as you claimed. you need to stick with this point... as that is why I am saying your lied and trolled your ass off...
as a side point... here is a good definition of money laundering...
we saw in the indictment that Mannafort was trying to get money out of his US properties by falsifying loan apps.
Money laundering is concealing the transformation of profits from illegal activities and corruption into ostensibly "legitimate" assets.[1][2] The dilemma of illicit activities is accounting for the origin of the proceeds of such activities without raising the suspicion of law enforcement agencies. Accordingly, considerable time and effort is put into devising strategies which enable the safe use of those proceeds without raising unwanted suspicion. Implementing such strategies is generally called money laundering. After money has been suitably laundered or “cleaned”, it can be used in the mainstream economy for accumulation of wealth, such as acquisitions of properties, or otherwise spent. Law enforcement agencies of many jurisdictions have set up sophisticated systems in an effort to detect suspicious transactions or activities, and many have set up international cooperative arrangements to assist each other in these endeavours.
In a number of legal and regulatory systems, the term money laundering has become conflated with other forms of financial and business crime, and is sometimes used more generally to include misuse of the financial system (involving things such as securities, digital currencies, credit cards, and traditional currency), including terrorism financing and evasion of international sanctions.[3] Most anti-money laundering laws openly conflate money laundering (which is concerned with source of funds) with terrorism financing (which is concerned with destination of funds) when regulating the financial system.[4]
Some countries treat obfuscation of sources of money as also constituting money laundering, whether it is intentional or by merely using financial systems or services that do not identify or track sources or destinations. Other countries define money laundering in such a way as to include money from activity that would have been a crime in that country, even if the activity was legal where the actual conduct occurred.[5]
LOL, so it's not money laundering because you looked up the wiki page? And that's the basis of your lecture?
From the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council (FFIEC) handbook on money laundering
Loan proceeds used to purchase property in the name of a third party, or
collateral pledged by a third party. A customer may use loan proceeds to purchase,
or may pledge as collateral, real property in the name of a trustee, shell corporation,
etc
https://www.ffiec.gov/bsa_aml_infobase/documents/red_flags/lending.pdf
From the book
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Transnational Criminal Organizations, Cybercrime, and Money Laundering
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1420048724
This method involves parking illicit funds in an offshore bank while using the value of the account ascollateral for a bank loan in another country. ... loans were commonly used by the related companies and banks controlled by the Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) in its 18-year money-laundering run.
From the book
Managing Risks in Commercial and Retail Banking
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1118103564
Money laundering is the criminal practice of converting illegal sources of money through a series of transactions that look like genuine transactions into a pool of ... as taking loans from fictitious parties at offshore centers orutilizing deposit receipt of offshore funds as collateral for borrowing money attheir place of operation
How is your certainty looking now doofus?
during the Trump time... the indictment says...
"extracted money from MANAFORT’s United States real estate"
so your first links not only do not apply to the facts while he worked with Trump...
your first link itself says these activities are "red flags"... not necessarily money laundering.
you are a special kind of lying troll.
and lets not forget... none of that is laundering dirty russian money.
as far as the indictment indicates it was Mannaforts earnings which he did not report to the IRS.
2. now... unless you back up your quote below in the very next post...
you are a troll liar.
"And these indictments include shit Manafort/Gates did during the campaign/transition. Trump's campaign manager was actively laundering dirty Russian money during Trump's campaign."
"extracted money from MANAFORT’s United States real estate"
so your first links not only do not apply to the facts while he worked with Trump...
your first link itself says these activities are "red flags"... not necessarily money laundering.
you are a special kind of lying troll.
and lets not forget... none of that is laundering dirty russian money.
as far as the indictment indicates it was Mannaforts earnings which he did not report to the IRS.
2. now... unless you back up your quote below in the very next post...
you are a troll liar.
"And these indictments include shit Manafort/Gates did during the campaign/transition. Trump's campaign manager was actively laundering dirty Russian money during Trump's campaign."
Con troll never gets tired of being wrong.
Whose money was it? Russian oligarch money that was kept in offshore funds. How is that not Russian money? That money was used in a textbook way of money laundering when it was used to secure a local loan. So how is it not laundering Russian money?
Who was Manafort working for and with? He was working with Gates and advising Trump, Gates was officially working for Trump - that leaves no doubt that both were working for Trump.
You got caught in a lie, time to apologize.
its like you don't understand English.
you wrote this... now prove it was in the indictment
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and remember it must be laundering dirty russian money while working for Trump.
Not his own money which was paid to him by the govt of Ukraine prior to working for Trump.
Exgoper is a lying dnc troll.
here is how the indictment actually sets up.
they laundered their own income...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018...k-fraud-charges-against-manafort-gates-422335
The new indictment accuses Manafort and Gates of dramatically understating their income on federal tax returns filed from 2010 through 2014. The pair is also accused of bank fraud totaling more than $20 million tied to three loans Manafort applied for in connection with various homes he owns.
In all, Manafort and Gates laundered more than $30 million in income, chiefly from their Ukraine work, the new indictment alleges.
you wrote this... now prove it was in the indictment
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and remember it must be laundering dirty russian money while working for Trump.
Not his own money which was paid to him by the govt of Ukraine prior to working for Trump.
Exgoper is a lying dnc troll.
here is how the indictment actually sets up.
they laundered their own income...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018...k-fraud-charges-against-manafort-gates-422335
The new indictment accuses Manafort and Gates of dramatically understating their income on federal tax returns filed from 2010 through 2014. The pair is also accused of bank fraud totaling more than $20 million tied to three loans Manafort applied for in connection with various homes he owns.
In all, Manafort and Gates laundered more than $30 million in income, chiefly from their Ukraine work, the new indictment alleges.
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Who said that part was in the indictment itself? I reasoned that he was laundering money while working for Trump and the money was from a Russian oligarch which he kept in an offshore account by pointing to the dates in the indictment and the money laundering report.
You are a joke, you want a literal quote when it comes to right wingers, but you have no problems jumping to conclusions when liberals are accused by fake news article or random blogs.
which is the point...
not only were you making shit up... your reasoning was wrong.
And, you misrepresented things as facts about the indictment.
not only were you making shit up... your reasoning was wrong.
And, you misrepresented things as facts about the indictment.
My reasoning was perfect and it will soon be in official language, it's funny you getting literal about indictments when you lied using a fake news source about U1 indictment
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-underway-1st-indictment.317035/#post-4583857
Nothing in that indictment had ANYTHING to do with U1, it was a completely different case that didn't even mention U1. And you are lecturing others on misrepresenting?
if it comes out someday that Mannafort was laundering Russia money while working with Trump...
that will not change the fact you lied on this thread about what the indictment said.
that will not change the fact you lied on this thread about what the indictment said.