That would be a simple task for computers now days. Just like at the bank.... login with your SSN and bring up a picture of your signature when you registered... then mark the computer record that you have voted this time and prevent attempts at voting again in another precinct.
30,000 Dead Registered To Vote In N.C.
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That would be a simple task for computers now days. Just like at the bank.... login with your SSN and bring up a picture of your signature when you registered... then mark the computer record that you have voted this time and prevent attempts at voting again in another precinct.
If one follows politics regularly, a high tolerance for hypocrisy and outright lying is required. This debate over voter IDs may redefine the levels of tolerance required though.
Democrats are opposed to these laws for one of two reasons. Either significant numbers of legal voters will be prevented from voting, as they claim, or these laws will hunder efforts at vote fraud. Which is the more likely reason? Hint: which party is in bed with vote fraud specialists like ACORN? Which party controls large urban areas where vote fraud flourishes? Which party has a sordid record of winning contested elections through fraud?
And finally, which party, while claiming to be so concerned about voter suppression, has a record of trying to surpress servicemen's absentee ballots on technicalities and which has apparently failed this year to take steps to insure that such votes will be counted?
Democrats are opposed to these laws for one of two reasons. Either significant numbers of legal voters will be prevented from voting, as they claim, or these laws will hunder efforts at vote fraud. Which is the more likely reason? Hint: which party is in bed with vote fraud specialists like ACORN? Which party controls large urban areas where vote fraud flourishes? Which party has a sordid record of winning contested elections through fraud?
And finally, which party, while claiming to be so concerned about voter suppression, has a record of trying to surpress servicemen's absentee ballots on technicalities and which has apparently failed this year to take steps to insure that such votes will be counted?
Anti American actions by the republican party.
Texas lawmakers undermined voter ID law by overreaching
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/09/05/4233732/texas-lawmakers-undermined-voter.html#storylink=cpy
Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...o-a-brazen-new-extreme-20120530#ixzz25i39LssM
Florida's disgraced former GOP chairman says the party had meetings about "keeping blacks from voting"
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/
Federal court strikes down Texas voter ID law
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/politics/texas-voter-id-law/index.html
A federal judge in Ohio on Friday restored early voting rights in the three days before the election, ruling in favor of the Obama campaign.
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this wasnât the only smackdown the forces of vote suppression received this week. In Texas, not only did the latest Republican gerrymandering effort get bounced on its ear in DC Federal court, but the GOPâs second-favorite pet project, its version of the ALEC Voter ID law, also got spanked by a Federal court in DC: âA three-judge panel in Washington ruled Thursday that the law imposes âstrict, unforgiving burdens on the poorâ and noted that racial minorities in Texas are more likely to live in poverty.â And in Florida and Wisconsin, similar efforts to suppress voting were recently turned back by various courts.
http://firedoglake.com/2012/09/01/c...er-suppression-efforts-challenged-nationwide/
Texas lawmakers undermined voter ID law by overreaching
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/09/05/4233732/texas-lawmakers-undermined-voter.html#storylink=cpy
Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...o-a-brazen-new-extreme-20120530#ixzz25i39LssM
Florida's disgraced former GOP chairman says the party had meetings about "keeping blacks from voting"
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/
Federal court strikes down Texas voter ID law
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/politics/texas-voter-id-law/index.html
A federal judge in Ohio on Friday restored early voting rights in the three days before the election, ruling in favor of the Obama campaign.
...
this wasnât the only smackdown the forces of vote suppression received this week. In Texas, not only did the latest Republican gerrymandering effort get bounced on its ear in DC Federal court, but the GOPâs second-favorite pet project, its version of the ALEC Voter ID law, also got spanked by a Federal court in DC: âA three-judge panel in Washington ruled Thursday that the law imposes âstrict, unforgiving burdens on the poorâ and noted that racial minorities in Texas are more likely to live in poverty.â And in Florida and Wisconsin, similar efforts to suppress voting were recently turned back by various courts.
http://firedoglake.com/2012/09/01/c...er-suppression-efforts-challenged-nationwide/
That's an absurd statement. Do you have any idea how easy it is to obtain a credible fake ID?
Come on, just admit it. You guys support the voter ID laws because they have been initiated by Republicans, and the Republicans want voter ID laws not to address voter fraud, but to present an obstacle to a large number of registered citizens who are otherwise on the fringes of society who are unlikely to have current ID and who vote disproportionately Democratic. I am not against voter verification but I can't see why a legally registered voter's signature is not sufficient when indeed a signature is far more difficult to fake than is a driver's license.
The Supreme Court upheld the Indiana Voter ID law but noted that the State of Indiana was unable to produce one instance of vote fraud.
Plus, as an unintended consequence, many of the Democratic voters targeted by these ID laws are going to get ID, and they are going to vote, especially those who would have remained apathetic.
That's all I am going to say on this matter and come the first Wednesday of this November, Mitt Romney will remain among the unemployed. He can go "bar huntin" in Georgia after the thaw.
I read all these articles you posted. Did you read them fully?
In the above article, the editorial writer is attempting to make the case that a valid ID should not be required for voting, yet you and I already went over this point and are in agreement. You are attempting to tie the editorial to proof that republicans are trying to take away the right of democrats to vote, yet there is no such action here other than trying to force people to present ID to vote.
There is a lot of general assertion here, not a whole bunch of fact. However, the purging of registered voters by some partisan group (either side) is not the right way to go about doing it. We are in agreement here, there has to be some proof that the person isn't a citizen, you cant just say "these are the suspected non-citizens, pull them off the list", even if it DID give the people on the list an opportunity to reply to the counter. However, there is an interesting quote in this article:
The first batch of names was riddled with inaccuracies. For example, as the progressive blog Think Progress noted, "an excess of 20 percent of the voters flagged as 'non-citizens' in Miami-Dade are, in fact, citizens.
That means that 80 percent were actually not. To me, that indicates that there is a problem with registered voter lists. Hell, even if it were 50%, it is still a BIG problem to say that every other voter is illegally voting.
This guy deserves to be thrown in jail. But for every kook you pull out in the GOP that does stuff like this, I can find his counterpart on the left who has done deplorable things as well. This does not mean the GOP as a whole is trying this tactic anymore than it means all democrats are trying to prevent ID laws.
This last one was merely a follow up of the first article you posted, and is evidence of the federal government interfering in state's trying to prevent voter fraud. Eric Holder cheering on. What a surprise.
In the above article, the editorial writer is attempting to make the case that a valid ID should not be required for voting, yet you and I already went over this point and are in agreement. You are attempting to tie the editorial to proof that republicans are trying to take away the right of democrats to vote, yet there is no such action here other than trying to force people to present ID to vote.
There is a lot of general assertion here, not a whole bunch of fact. However, the purging of registered voters by some partisan group (either side) is not the right way to go about doing it. We are in agreement here, there has to be some proof that the person isn't a citizen, you cant just say "these are the suspected non-citizens, pull them off the list", even if it DID give the people on the list an opportunity to reply to the counter. However, there is an interesting quote in this article:
The first batch of names was riddled with inaccuracies. For example, as the progressive blog Think Progress noted, "an excess of 20 percent of the voters flagged as 'non-citizens' in Miami-Dade are, in fact, citizens.
That means that 80 percent were actually not. To me, that indicates that there is a problem with registered voter lists. Hell, even if it were 50%, it is still a BIG problem to say that every other voter is illegally voting.
This guy deserves to be thrown in jail. But for every kook you pull out in the GOP that does stuff like this, I can find his counterpart on the left who has done deplorable things as well. This does not mean the GOP as a whole is trying this tactic anymore than it means all democrats are trying to prevent ID laws.
This last one was merely a follow up of the first article you posted, and is evidence of the federal government interfering in state's trying to prevent voter fraud. Eric Holder cheering on. What a surprise.