3 AM Call came - No Hillary and No Obama
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And unicorns that shit gumballs will slide down rainbows into fields of lollipops and save us from global warming if we all vote democrap and pay higher taxes.
Charlie Sheen is 45 and his story is all over the news because he is a substance abuser, an adulterer, sexually promiscuous and obnoxious.
Lindsay Lohan is 24 and her story is all over the news because she is a celebrity drug addict and a thief.
The same can be said about drug addict Philip Seymour Hoffman who died with a needle stuck in his arm.
Something as frivolous as Kim Kardashian's stupid wedding (and short-lived marriage) was shoved down our throats, while........
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Brett Linley 29
Matthew Weikert 29
Justus Bartett 27
Dave Santos 21
Jesse Reed 26
Matthew Johnson 21
Zachary Fisher 24
Brandon King 23
Christopher Goeke 23
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....are all Marines who gave their lives last month for you.
There is no media for them; not even a mention of their names.
They were young men who most likely came from rural America seeking a chance to better themselves and to serve this country.
Lindsay Lohan is 24 and her story is all over the news because she is a celebrity drug addict and a thief.
The same can be said about drug addict Philip Seymour Hoffman who died with a needle stuck in his arm.
Something as frivolous as Kim Kardashian's stupid wedding (and short-lived marriage) was shoved down our throats, while........
Justin Allen 23
Brett Linley 29
Matthew Weikert 29
Justus Bartett 27
Dave Santos 21
Jesse Reed 26
Matthew Johnson 21
Zachary Fisher 24
Brandon King 23
Christopher Goeke 23
and Sheldon Tate 27...
....are all Marines who gave their lives last month for you.
There is no media for them; not even a mention of their names.
They were young men who most likely came from rural America seeking a chance to better themselves and to serve this country.
>>Originally Posted by futurecurrents
There was no abdication of duty by Obama or Clinton. There was no ignored 3am call.
There was no military response possible. If there was, they would have done it.
Wow you are deluded.<<
This is actually the democrat/media spin. Anyone who disagrees with it can expect to be attacked for trying to "exploit" a tragedy.
1. Poor decisionmaking created a situation where the Ambassador was meeting with the Turkish Ambassador in an insecure area that he had been repeatedly warned about. There is an underground effort to blame Amb. Stevens for all of this, but we have never gotten to the bottom ofwhat he was doing and why, and who approved the security arrangement or vetoed requests for adequate security.
The fact remains that he and some brave guards who had no role in the decisions were killed, and we have no answers as to why.
2. We had no way of knowing how long the fight would continue or whether military rescue would be possible. In fact, it was possible. Fighter jets could have been dispatched from Italy and could have at least buzzed the attack, possibly forcing them to break off or could have dropped munitions. Airborne troops at Africa command were on the runway ready to go and told to stand down. Even relief elements in Libya were told to stand down.
3. The evidence is quite clear that the overriding factor for the State Department was avoiding the risk of offending the Libyans. They saw an armed rescue attempt as violating Libyan sovereignty, as ridiculous as that sounds. We chose diplomatic niceties with a failed state over the lives of Americans. Scary. Jay Carney said to even suggest that was "disgusting". He is right. It is disgusting, but that doesn't make it go away.
4. We could have mounted a retaliatory air attack on the islamist militia immediately after the attack, We could have attacked them later. We could have sent in a kill team to deal with them. We could have sent in a drone to take out their leaders or the people we supposedly identified. We could have arrested some of them, even if it meant doing a rendition. Other than send in some FBI agents weeks later to poke around, we have done nothing. Nothing.
5. Rather than answer legitimate questions, Hillary threw a tantrum before the senate committee, screeching "what does it matter" repeatedly. Very presidential.
There was no abdication of duty by Obama or Clinton. There was no ignored 3am call.
There was no military response possible. If there was, they would have done it.
Wow you are deluded.<<
This is actually the democrat/media spin. Anyone who disagrees with it can expect to be attacked for trying to "exploit" a tragedy.
1. Poor decisionmaking created a situation where the Ambassador was meeting with the Turkish Ambassador in an insecure area that he had been repeatedly warned about. There is an underground effort to blame Amb. Stevens for all of this, but we have never gotten to the bottom ofwhat he was doing and why, and who approved the security arrangement or vetoed requests for adequate security.
The fact remains that he and some brave guards who had no role in the decisions were killed, and we have no answers as to why.
2. We had no way of knowing how long the fight would continue or whether military rescue would be possible. In fact, it was possible. Fighter jets could have been dispatched from Italy and could have at least buzzed the attack, possibly forcing them to break off or could have dropped munitions. Airborne troops at Africa command were on the runway ready to go and told to stand down. Even relief elements in Libya were told to stand down.
3. The evidence is quite clear that the overriding factor for the State Department was avoiding the risk of offending the Libyans. They saw an armed rescue attempt as violating Libyan sovereignty, as ridiculous as that sounds. We chose diplomatic niceties with a failed state over the lives of Americans. Scary. Jay Carney said to even suggest that was "disgusting". He is right. It is disgusting, but that doesn't make it go away.
4. We could have mounted a retaliatory air attack on the islamist militia immediately after the attack, We could have attacked them later. We could have sent in a kill team to deal with them. We could have sent in a drone to take out their leaders or the people we supposedly identified. We could have arrested some of them, even if it meant doing a rendition. Other than send in some FBI agents weeks later to poke around, we have done nothing. Nothing.
5. Rather than answer legitimate questions, Hillary threw a tantrum before the senate committee, screeching "what does it matter" repeatedly. Very presidential.
We can add Boko Haram to that list.
Wasn't Robin Trower with these guys years back. OH wait, different group. I don't supposes the new group would like a song called Whiter Shade of Pale. They might like the reference to virgins though.
Sorry to make light of a serious situation. What can we do but laugh at the folly of it all? Bunch a fuck ups running the country and the world.
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Wrong wrong and wrong.
Clinton screeched "what does it matter" repeatedly? First off, that's not what she said. Second of all, she did not "shriek it repeatedly".
You are deluded, ignorant and/or mistaken on all these points.
This is what she said
With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that theyâd they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe weâll figure out what was going on in the meantime.