2nd American Revolution starts now. Florida:We will not comply with healthcare law.

PHOENIX TRADING · Jul 1, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

You have a list of FORCED purchase of insurance by governments.
And it's exactly the same I can drive without insurance and if caught pay a fine (tax haha).
Same with all the other government forced insurance purchases.
The best part of this ruling is it is the first step toward the single payer plan which is going to happen. I know I know you're going to leave the country if that happens.

I've always been in favor of the single payer system, the consumer has the responsibility to pay.

simple enough for you?

AK Forty Seven · Jul 1, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

medicare
It does in no way shape or form function like insurance premiums paid in advance.

You pay the health insurance /medicare premium in advance and get the benefits in the future

bigarrow · Jul 1, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

I've always been in favor of the single payer system, the consumer has the responsibility to pay.

simple enough for you?

I assume you don't use public roads, public water supply, etc...

I prefer to belong to a society, I'm not the singular mountain man, hermit type. But hey what ever floats your boat.

PHOENIX TRADING · Jul 1, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

I assume you don't use public roads, public water supply, etc...

I prefer to belong to a society, I'm not the singular mountain man, hermit type. But hey what ever floats your boat.

off topic non-sequitur rant

PHOENIX TRADING · Jul 1, 2012

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

You pay the health insurance /medicare premium in advance and get the benefits in the future

benefits have virtually NO relationship to premiums paid so you are wrong.

It's just a govt give away program.

bigarrow · Jul 1, 2012

I remember when the communist made their first strike agains freedom in America. It was the only time I ever saw my dad cry...it was official the government made wearing a seat belt mandatory, enforceable by fine, which my dad said was just a way to disguise a tax.
Excuse me I have to wipe the tears from my eyes. Goddamn you Mr. Gorbachev.

RCG Trader · Jul 2, 2012

Quote from Grandluxe:

How dare the federal government interfere with the workings of the SOVEREIGN state of Florida ? That alone is grounds for rebellion.

Seen that movie....no dice.

PHOENIX TRADING · Jul 2, 2012

Eventually state's rights will make a resurgence when people tire of this ill advised adoration of socialism and unlimited federal power.

TGregg · Jul 2, 2012

Quote from futurecurrents:

There should have been a provision in this bill to satisfy the Republicans and the Libertarians. You can opt out and not have insurance but if you can't pay for medical care, that's it. They would be required by law, by your choice, to throw your sorry ass into the street. If you die well at least you were free, free to be stupid.

There'd be no issue with conservatives if they offered this provision. None. It'd sail through Congress like a declaration of Firefighters Are Awesome on 9/11/2013. Curious though. You realize that is a conservative thing? I bet not. I suspect you are so libtard as to not realize that many would leap at this opportunity, so many so that the libtards cannot offer it.

OccupyThis · Jul 2, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

I remember when the communist made their first strike agains freedom in America. It was the only time I ever saw my dad cry...it was official the government made wearing a seat belt mandatory, enforceable by fine, which my dad said was just a way to disguise a tax.
Excuse me I have to wipe the tears from my eyes. Goddamn you Mr. Gorbachev.

Your Dad must be oh so proud of you.