2nd American Revolution starts now. Florida:We will not comply with healthcare law.

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

That's pretty damn funny because up until this piece of legislation no one "MADE" you buy insurance at all.

They've been making me buy insurance since I was 17. This is nothing new.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

They've been making me buy insurance since I was 17. This is nothing new.


The govt has been making you buy health ins from who since you were 17?

sounds like BS to me
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

The govt has been making you buy health ins from who since you were 17?

sounds like BS to me

I assume he's referring to medicare which is health insurance you are forced to buy even at 17
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I assume he's referring to medicare which is health insurance you are forced to buy even at 17

medicare payments at 17 are just TAXES, there are no health insurance benefits to collect.

Of course I contend medicare is unconstitutional as well, so the point moot.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I assume he's referring to medicare which is health insurance you are forced to buy even at 17

Yes and also the government has forced me to buy car insurance also since I was 17.
The city government forces me to buy busniness liability insurance. When I worked in AZ. the gov. forced me to buy workers comp ins.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Yes and also the government has forced me to buy car insurance also since I was 17.
The city government forces me to buy busniness liability insurance. When I worked in AZ. the gov. forced me to buy workers comp ins.

1)Okay dumbass we are talking about health insurance for one thing.
2) car insurance is for the privilege to operate a vehicle on public property
3) business liability ins, once again voluntary
4) workman's comp , once again voluntary

I'm drawing theses distinctions not because I agree with each of them but this healthcare ins represents a significant change in attitude it's completely involuntary .
 
There should have been a provision in this bill to satisfy the Republicans and the Libertarians. You can opt out and not have insurance but if you can't pay for medical care, that's it. They would be required by law, by your choice, to throw your sorry ass into the street. If you die well at least you were free, free to be stupid.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Yes there are,you collect them in the future
medicare
It does in no way shape or form function like insurance premiums paid in advance.

Who is eligible for Medicare?
Generally, Medicare is available for people age 65 or older, younger people with disabilities and people with End Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or transplant). Medicare has two parts, Part A (Hospital Insurance) and Part B (Medical Insurance). You are eligible for premium-free Part A if you are age 65 or older and you or your spouse worked and paid Medicare taxes for at least 10 years. You can get Part A at age 65 without having to pay premiums if:
You are receiving retirement benefits from Social Security or the Railroad Retirement Board. You are eligible to receive Social Security or Railroad benefits but you have not yet filed for them. You or your spouse had Medicare-covered government employment.
If you (or your spouse) did not pay Medicare taxes while you worked, and you are age 65 or older and a citizen or permanent resident of the United States, you may be able to buy Part A. If you are under age 65, you can get Part A without having to pay premiums if:
You have been entitled to Social Security or Railroad Retirement Board disability benefits for 24 months. (Note: If you have Lou Gehrig's disease, your Medicare benefits begin the first month you get disability benefits.) You are a kidney dialysis or kidney transplant patient.
While most people do not have to pay a premium for Part A, everyone must pay for Part B if they want it. This monthly premium is deducted from your Social Security, Railroad Retirement, or Civil Service Retirement check. If you do not get any of these payments, Medicare sends you a bill for your Part B premium every 3 months.

If you have questions about your eligibility for Medicare Part A or Part B, or if you want to apply for Medicare, call the Social Security Administration or visit their web site . The toll-free telephone number is: 1-800-772-1213. The TTY-TDD number for the hearing impaired is 1-800-325-0778. You can also get information about buying Part A as well as Part B if you do not qualify for premium-free Part A. See also our FAQ on .
https://questions.medicare.gov/
 
You have a list of FORCED purchase of insurance by governments.
And it's exactly the same I can drive without insurance and if caught pay a fine (tax haha).
Same with all the other government forced insurance purchases.
The best part of this ruling is it is the first step toward the single payer plan which is going to happen. I know I know you're going to leave the country if that happens.
 
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