$25,000+ a year for healthcare

der_kommissar said:
Sig doesn't believe that there is any inflation either...The government told him so.
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Since you didn't find any factual issues with my last post than we'll assume you either agree with it or just couldn't refute it.
Given that, I'm not sure what the point of your last statement was? Was there any content at all in there, or were you just trying to troll?
 
Sig said:
Since you didn't find any factual issues with my last post than we'll assume you either agree with it or just couldn't refute it.
Given that, I'm not sure what the point of your last statement was? Was there any content at all in there, or were you just trying to troll?
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Just advising S2007S that he is "debating" with a guy who would have given his firstborn to work for "The Ministry of Truth".
 
zdreg said:
given that you claim to run a power co you should have extensive knowledge of health issues. unfortunately that is not the case.
I run a company in the power industry and happen to know a bit about coal. <http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/how-to-profit-from-coals-demise.300042/>

what are you inhaling? perhaps it a lot of coal dust
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Again, if any of you have any legitimate issues to bring up with what I stated, we all welcome them. The fact that you don't appear to, and have resorted to rather bizarre attacks on me instead says a lot about both you and der_kommissar as well as the positions you hold.
Let's all see if we can be intelligent, well meaning adults who can hold civil discussions about ideas even with those who have the audacity to hold views different than ours. Try it, life's so much better without pointless vitriol, for you and everyone around you.
 
der_kommissar said:
Just advising S2007S that he is "debating" with a guy who would have given his firstborn to work for "The Ministry of Truth".
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"the ministry of truth" sounds like the propaganda department in the former communist russia.
 
zdreg said:
"the ministry of truth" sounds like the propaganda department in the former communist russia.
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Close enough...I was thinking of the department responsible for the "official narrative" in 1984...Sig would have been employee of the month...Confidently reciting worthless govt statistics while smugly patting himself on the back...
 
der_kommissar said:
Close enough...I was thinking of the department responsible for the "official narrative" in 1984...Sig would have been employee of the month...Confidently reciting worthless govt statistics while smugly patting himself on the back...
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Well you've both made my point for me better than I could myself! Sadly the answer to my question is clearly no.
 
Disagree with your analysis. We get the "latest and greatest" in Japan, Hong Kong, Germany, etc, all at a fraction of the cost of what one would pay in the US. The screening technology, tests, quality of surgery is a good (and often way better than the quality of health care and average American receives). So, comparably, US health care costs have disproportionately increased relative to the increase in the quality of the services, rendered.

Also in other G7 countries (let's exclude city states like Singapore or HK for a moment) the health care coverage is much broader across society than in the US, so another of the common arguments, that health care in the US is expensive because a limited pot has to feed a lot, is invalidated as well.

If you look at the charged cost of services rendered at hospitals and care clinics you find your answer. It is ridiculously inflated prices charged for such services.

Sig said:
So first of all, I'd recommend reading the article. For example, "employers pay 57 percent of the total health costs", so the headline number that an actual family pays is a little less than $11,000, and that number "marks the lowest rate of increase since the index began in 2001". Both facts take a lot away from the "sky is falling" headline and S2007S' interpretation of it.

I've got news for you on healthcare, if you're happy to accept the healthcare available 10 years ago (or any arbitrary number of years ago in the recent past) and nothing but the health care available 10 years ago, i.e. no drugs, tests, or proceedures developed in the past 10 years, you'd be paying a fraction of what you were 10 years ago. Health care costs aren't inflating, the costs of the latest and greatest in healthcare is inflating and you are all demanding the latest and greatest. If you compare apples to apples, like you'd literally compare the cost of an apple today to that cost of that same type of apple 10 years ago, healthcare costs would be significantly lower. You're not comparing apples to apples.
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Sig said:
I've got news for you on healthcare, if you're happy to accept the healthcare available 10 years ago (or any arbitrary number of years ago in the recent past) and nothing but the health care available 10 years ago, i.e. no drugs, tests, or proceedures developed in the past 10 years, you'd be paying a fraction of what you were 10 years ago. Health care costs aren't inflating, the costs of the latest and greatest in healthcare is inflating and you are all demanding the latest and greatest. If you compare apples to apples, like you'd literally compare the cost of an apple today to that cost of that same type of apple 10 years ago, healthcare costs would be significantly lower. You're not comparing apples to apples.
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You sound like you believe in hedonic adjustments. I bet you that after your hedonic adjustments you could make healthcare costs look like they are deflating! Unfortunately for you, hedonic adjustments are complete bullsh*t.
 
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