24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit

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You only need to look a Caterpillers China deal to see the future. While it's been going on for years, it's full throttle at this point. As major manufactures continue to move out of country, the jobs lost are lost forever. All the tax breaks in the world won't bring those jobs back, and there's nothing in place for those workers to do. And China knows how to work a deal. Product will be made in China, by Chinese workers, with steel form Chinese mills, and all profits will be kept in China. Sweet!
We can Retrain? Retrain for what? Everything in every sector is moving abroad. Best learn to empty bed pans, cause that's about all there is left to do.
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Gotta love the ole retraining line. I guess we can retrain how to live off the land, without cars, utilities, and college like cavemen. No more bills. Sounds great to me.
 
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Product will be made in China, by Chinese workers, with steel form Chinese mills, and all profits will be kept in China.
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Thanks to Obama, the Democrats, and the unions!
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The following are 24 signs that all of America is becoming a rotting, post-industrial, post-apocalyptic wasteland just like Detroit....

#1 The second most dangerous city in the United States - Camden, New Jersey - is about to lay off about half its police.

#2 In the city of Camden, about the only "industries" that are truly thriving are drug-dealing and prostitution. It is estimated that there are literally dozens of open-air drug markets in Camden.

#3 The city of Newark, New Jersey laid off 13 percent of its police force just last week.

#4 Of 315 municipalities the New Jersey State Policemen's union recently surveyed, more than half indicated that they were planning to lay off police officers.

#5 At least 1000 people now live in the 200 miles of flood tunnels that exist under the city of Las Vegas.

#6 All over America, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel because it is cheaper to maintain. The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt road into gravel over the past year, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have transformed at least some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.


#8 The city of San Jose, California recently laid off 49 firefighters.

#9 Over the past year, approximately 100 of New York's state parks and historic sites have had to cut services and reduce hours.


#14 Oakland, California Police Chief Anthony Batts has announced that due to severe budget cuts there are a number of crimes that his department will simply not be able to respond to any longer. The crimes that the Oakland police will no longer be responding to include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.


#16 The state of Illinois is so far behind on its bills that not even schools and essential social services are getting their money on time.

#17 The sheriff's department in Ashtabula County, Ohio has been slashed from 112 to 49 deputies, and there is now just one vehicle remaining to patrol all 720 square miles of the county.


#19 In a desperate attempt to save money, the city of Colorado Springs turned off a third of its streetlights and put its police helicopters up for auction.


#23 Things have gotten so bad in Stockton, California that the police union put up a billboard with the following message: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops."

#24 Major cities such as Philadelphia, Baltimore and Sacramento have instituted "rolling brownouts" in which various city fire stations are shut down on a rotating basis. So if you live in one of those cities and you have a fire, you had better hope that your local fire station is not scheduled for a "brownout" that day.
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Hmmmm, anyone else notice the specific states mentioned? All the crime, layoffs, poverty, etc and with the exception of 2 examples (in Georgia and Arizona) they were all carried by Obama in the 2008 election!

Here are the states that went “blue” on Election Night, 2008:

California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Hawaii
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
District of Columbia

http://www.getlisty.com/preview/states-obama-won/

Fucking change you can believe in!!!!
 
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Can you be that simple minded? Let's stick with CAT becasue it's such a perfect example of what's happening.
Do you know that CAT has had a two tier hiring system for over a decade? New hires make substancially less in pay and benefits. A Journeyman Machinist starts at around 15 bucks an hour in the Aurora, IL. plant. 15 bucks an hour for a skilled trade! That wasn't a decent wage 10 years ago, and it sure as shit isn't now. Can you live on 30K a year? Do it as an individual, let alone a family? Yet even with all these cuts, it's still cheaper to do business overseas. How in the hell can we compete with that? We can't!
Unions have been a non-issue for better than 20 years. Your buddy Ronnie Rayguns broke them, and they've been broke since. Wages for the blue collar worker have been flatlined for decades. Benefits have been slashed accross the board, and it still cost more to manufacture here than overseas. There's nothing left to cut, and there's nowhere left for these workers to go.
What you just don't seem to get, is that without a robust and prosperous working class, the entire country goes down over time. And guess what slick, you're going with it, whether you think you are, or not.
 
Let’s say I need to build a factory and pick a location for it. Well, if I place my factory on U.S. soil I need to worry about B.S. sexual harassment lawsuits, other B.S. lawsuits (I slipped and fell and my coffee was too hot, so I’m suing for $50 mil in damages). I need to worry about the EEOC and/or Jesse Jackson barging in my doors and shaking me down over a ‘lack of sufficient diversity in the workforce’. I need to worry about the EPA shutting me down because I’m supposedly not doing enough to protect the habitat of the white-shelled river slug. I've also got stacks of needless regulatory red-tape paperwork to deal with, and must hire an army of lawyers & bureaucrats to handle it.

If I open my factory in China or Indonesia I don’t have to worry about any of these needless hassles- I can just build the factory and get the work done. America has become uncompetitive due to too much interference from sleazy lawyers and even sleazier government regulators interfering with the natural flow of business, and Atlas is shrugging. I blame these factors far more than any union.
 
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Let’s say I need to build a factory and pick a location for it. Well, if I place my factory on U.S. soil I need to worry about B.S. sexual harassment lawsuits, other B.S. lawsuits (I slipped and fell and my coffee was too hot, so I’m suing for $50 mil in damages). I need to worry about the EEOC and/or Jesse Jackson barging in my doors and shaking me down over a ‘lack of sufficient diversity in the workforce’. I need to worry about the EPA shutting me down because I’m supposedly not doing enough to protect the habitat of the white-shelled river slug. I've also got stacks of needless regulatory red-tape paperwork to deal with, and must hire an army of lawyers & bureaucrats to handle it.

If I open my factory in China or Indonesia I don’t have to worry about any of these needless hassles- I can just build the factory and get the work done. America has become uncompetitive due to too much interference from sleazy lawyers and even sleazier government regulators interfering with the natural flow of business, and Atlas is shrugging. I blame these factors far more than any union.
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Let’s say I need to build a factory and pick a location for it. Well, if I place my factory on U.S. soil I need to worry about B.S. sexual harassment lawsuits, other B.S. lawsuits (I slipped and fell and my coffee was too hot, so I’m suing for $50 mil in damages). I need to worry about the EEOC and/or Jesse Jackson barging in my doors and shaking me down over a ‘lack of sufficient diversity in the workforce’. I need to worry about the EPA shutting me down because I’m supposedly not doing enough to protect the habitat of the white-shelled river slug. I've also got stacks of needless regulatory red-tape paperwork to deal with, and must hire an army of lawyers & bureaucrats to handle it.

If I open my factory in China or Indonesia I don’t have to worry about any of these needless hassles- I can just build the factory and get the work done. America has become uncompetitive due to too much interference from sleazy lawyers and even sleazier government regulators interfering with the natural flow of business, and Atlas is shrugging. I blame these factors far more than any union.
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I do blame the unions as well, but you're absolutely right.
 
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Quote from CaptainObvious:

Can you be that simple minded? Let's stick with CAT becasue it's such a perfect example of what's happening.
Do you know that CAT has had a two tier hiring system for over a decade? New hires make substancially less in pay and benefits. A Journeyman Machinist starts at around 15 bucks an hour in the Aurora, IL. plant. 15 bucks an hour for a skilled trade! That wasn't a decent wage 10 years ago, and it sure as shit isn't now. Can you live on 30K a year? Do it as an individual, let alone a family? Yet even with all these cuts, it's still cheaper to do business overseas. How in the hell can we compete with that? We can't!
Unions have been a non-issue for better than 20 years. Your buddy Ronnie Rayguns broke them, and they've been broke since. Wages for the blue collar worker have been flatlined for decades. Benefits have been slashed accross the board, and it still cost more to manufacture here than overseas. There's nothing left to cut, and there's nowhere left for these workers to go.
What you just don't seem to get, is that without a robust and prosperous working class, the entire country goes down over time. And guess what slick, you're going with it, whether you think you are, or not.
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Quote from Rearden Metal:

Let’s say I need to build a factory and pick a location for it. Well, if I place my factory on U.S. soil I need to worry about B.S. sexual harassment lawsuits, other B.S. lawsuits (I slipped and fell and my coffee was too hot, so I’m suing for $50 mil in damages). I need to worry about the EEOC and/or Jesse Jackson barging in my doors and shaking me down over a ‘lack of sufficient diversity in the workforce’. I need to worry about the EPA shutting me down because I’m supposedly not doing enough to protect the habitat of the white-shelled river slug. I've also got stacks of needless regulatory red-tape paperwork to deal with, and must hire an army of lawyers & bureaucrats to handle it.

If I open my factory in China or Indonesia I don’t have to worry about any of these needless hassles- I can just build the factory and get the work done. America has become uncompetitive due to too much interference from sleazy lawyers and even sleazier government regulators interfering with the natural flow of business, and Atlas is shrugging. I blame these factors far more than any union.
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All true, and add the slave wages into the mix, there's no reason to do business in America. We simply cannot compete on any level. Without some great new technological revolution on the horizon, one that most everyone can participate in, we're done. Stick a fork in the U.S.
 
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