22 things you need to know about trading from Vic Niederhoffer

Quote from Pekelo:

That was my fault, I just threw her in because I thought she was sexy. :)

(and to show that there are other "heros" out there)

But again, we already discussed Karen Bruton and her African charity back in last December, I am surprised you forgot, specially that you posted after we gave her name...

Anyhow, sorry for the confusion...

Ok, man-- have a good weekend!
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

I am not editing nor am I able to edit anyone's posts--- WTF?

Bottom line is Atticus needs to advise exactly what he will accept as proof of AUM-- which I am still waiting for.

thanks, surf

The facts are bloomberg has the AUM at 350plus a long time prior to the highwater level-- about a year-- and Matador had impressive performance again during that year which built more AUM not to mention the other two funds plus managed accounts. Atticus has no way of knowing these details yet he is willing to bet "any amount" ? I'm a nice guy and will decline----

Sorry Surf, I was at Iron Man 3 and don't have a RSS feed for ET posts.

I have the monthly Octane letter sent out to all FoF clients. I have dozens of them and that's what I meant generically about ddoc. There is a tombstone disclaimer on each. I have the high water at something <$400MM, as the report is monthly. So I doubt that VN received >$100MM and lost it within a month's time.

You're welcome to take the bet, but I'd rely on something better than a bloomberg story (if I were you).

Proof to be in writing. I am not going to get into some circular argument with you. You have my PM and my email is atticuset at gmail dot com

Russell's teapot won't help you here. We can make it a friendly wager if that's more suitable.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

I am not editing nor am I able to edit anyone's posts--- WTF?

Bottom line is Atticus needs to advise exactly what he will accept as proof of AUM-- which I am still waiting for.

thanks, surf

The facts are bloomberg has the AUM at 350plus a long time prior to the highwater level-- about a year-- and Matador had impressive performance again during that year which built more AUM not to mention the other two funds plus managed accounts. Atticus has no way of knowing these details yet he is willing to bet "any amount" ? I'm a nice guy and will decline----

Now you're flat-out lying. You added the blurb about Barc well after I'd responded.
 
Quote from Pekelo:

I thought that sounded a bit too good, I didn't have time to read the whole article. I knew her husband was in the industry and raking in, that doesn't mean she can not be successful....

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By the way about the Matador issue, if I recall there were 2-3 funds, so it is possible that both Surf and Atticus are right, none of the funds went over 500 million but together they could have...

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Going back to an old Surf's defense, the "he made more money than he lost" in his professional life, since he was trading more and more capital, it is entirely possible to blow more than what he made previously...

A la Paulson....

F*ck dude, I thought I was explicit. The pool operator was "Manchester" as has been mentioned by me. They are synonymous, but I referred to the pool operator specifically and not simply Matador.

Via his personally owned and operated funds.... he absolutely lost more than he's made (OPM).
 
Quote from atticus:

Now you're flat-out lying. You added the blurb about Barc well after I'd responded.

Yeah, I added it to my post, no one elses--- mods were mentioned so I thought others posts were being altered---- no lying, I am still not sure what the issue is.

By the way, a surf quant who was monitoring the TA twitter challenge feed for me in real time says he was blocked from watching the trades? What is that about?

surf
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Is this the intern who is "invaluable"? Have you made him a full time offer yet?


Sorry, I don't talk details about personal business on elite.

He was trying to earn his rank by watching the TA trades unfold in real time, he knows much more than I do about the markets, and was just monitoring so everything stayed on the up and up- TA win or lose------ but was blocked. :confused:
 
Your intern knows much more about the markets that you do? :confused:

I'd say you have a problem on your hands..

Quote from marketsurfer:

He was trying to earn his keep by watching the TA trades unfold in real time, he knows much more than I do about the markets, and was just monitoring so everything stayed on the up and up- TA win or lose------ but was blocked. :confused:
 
Quote from taclander:

I grew up in the world you seem to aspire to. My pop said, no dice make your own way. I am no where near that life, but am still working for it. My kids have yet to go on a vacation more than 500 miles from home, and I still show up to work, trade every day.

Frankly, if you're not financially restrained, I don't see it any good to bar your kids - and yourself- from beeing worldly.

I'm actually wondering wether we should stop travelling overseas every single school holidays so i can again work more seriously, but i'm pretty sure it beats growing confined in a small geographic area
 
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