22 Surveys Which Prove That Americans Never Want To Go Back To The Way America Used To Be

Here4money said:
how's that different than indoctrination/ brain washing? You think Muslims in Afghanistan aren't ostracized for being sympathetic to Americans?
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F yeah they are, and as such they don't know any better. That's exactly my point.

Here4money said:
it just drives me bonkers this feigned respect we must give the troops for fear of ourselves being ostracized as unpatriotic.
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Well there is certainly a degree of that. They volunteer and its not a bad gig really. A very small percentage of our active duty actually experience hostile fire environs. We only hear the bad stuff, the PTSD and suicides etc.. but most have a tits job. Family separation sucks, but they have benefits out the ass. And the pay with all the benefits is actually pretty damn good. Officer and enlisted. That said, back to the discussion at hand, Vietnam was different. They were drafted for one thing, and for another thing it wasn't a war where every little detail hit Twitter and Facebook in an hour for MSNBC or CNN to parade out to millions of viewers with their twist on things. It was ugly. Shit went down. There were psycho's. On both sides. The N. Vietnamese were brutal evil fucks. They were. No different than the Japanese in WW2. Some of our kids retaliated in kind. The whole thing was ugly.
So yeah, while I agree with the whole "thank you for your service" is waaay overused today, the cats that were in Vietnam honestly deserve that praise. Each and every one. Just like the old dudes that we have so few left of that served in WW2. They deserve that thank you too. But a good solid 80% of our active duty now.... uh-uh.... there's no comparison.
 
Tony Stark said:
No,its exactly what I wrote.He said he was proud to serve in Vietnam.The US were killing Asians in Vietnam.Vietnam never attacked America.
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All veterans are proud of their service. That argument is about as strong as saying all Republicans are wanna-be slave masters. Up your game Tony if you're gonna chat with moi. I won't be drawn into illogical debates.
Scat never bragged about killing Asians. Period.
 
Wallet said:
Regardless of how you feel about the politics behind the wars, the individual men and women in uniform took an oath to defend this country, it’s constitution, we the people you and I. And to follow the orders of the President and Officers appointed over them.

Military members today take that oath voluntarily. So yeah, it puts them in a class of people a little higher than those who do nothing but take from this country and give nothing back.

But quit being so hard on yourself, those serving, gladly defend you too.
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Firefighters & linemen voluntarily put their lives in danger as well. They get nice benefits for their choices too.

https://www.fool.com/investing/gene...a-paycheck-these-jobs-are-more-dangerous.aspx
 
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Tony Stark said:
He said he was proud of his service in Vietnam.The US were killing Asians in Vietnam.
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You debate about as well as B1 does from the other side. Completely deficient of anything resembling the thought process required to make a valid counter-point. It just... "is the way it is"... in your heads. No ability whatsoever to think outside a limited field of vision and enough lack of IQ to not even realize that is where you're at.
The two of you:

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Just dumb. Or at least you play that on ET.
 
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